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  1. That's not what I was talking about.
    I meant that I wholeheartedly support Bono's activism, the Jubilee 2000, One campaign, accept refugees, you name it. I don't want Bono to stop promoting such important causes.
    But my point is that before this tour Bono emphasized too much the religious motivations of this. Now this tour he's more aware that this good work is completely independent of that and many people of different faiths are present in the crowd, so he only talks about the political side, which is better.
  2. Maybe a sign of this is that while in 360 we had Desmond Tutu (an archbishop) as a prominent figure, this time we had Stephen Hawking. (and I admire both)
  3. I don't think he was wrong in bringing up the religious motivations of his work. As I said, he's an evangelist and I'm certain if we had a conversation with him he would say his works and his faith are 100% connected. Now he talks more about the political aspects of things, but it's when he talks about his faith that he's most genuine. Regardless, when we decide to buy that ticket we are opting into whatever Bono has to say. The mic is in his hands and the stage is his to command (along with his mates). That being said, even if there are complaints about what agenda he pushes we have to admit he has every right to do that. Of course, if people are bothered enough they could simply not go...
  4. I'm an atheist and I simply ignore when Bono gets too religious.
    He's also just a little bit too preachy sometimes.
    ie refugee crisis. Talking about letting refugees in might help some people to overthink the topic....but well, he isn't the one having to live with all of this right in front of his nose. But we are. I don't have a problem with refugees. But with Nazis burning down houses, beating people up etc. Right in my neighborhood.
    And when you then see him talking about this topic you just think: dude, walk in my shoes for a mile and learn, it's not that simple as you think it is.

    Sometimes he should simply remember he's a rockstar, not a politician. It's good having some good causes to support. But he sometimes runs way behind the goal.

    I'm still fine he's using the stage as his platform. It's correct, people listen to rockstars and he might reach some. Even one person changing their mind is success. But he knows even the band sometimes roll their eyes about it and he should just put it down a bit on some days. I do understand that some people really have a problem with all of that. A rock concert is to enjoy, and leave the daily problems outside but Bono takes them in.
  5. Bono can be a bit too much sometimes. But in general i love it that he cares and letts face it: If nothing is said than nothing changes really........ So i understand him, his motivation to speak out.
    Ok, as fans we are all leading different lifes. If i had money i could also do more about poverty. But i'm a volunteer in the district i life. I'm in districts council and a volunteer at a school.
  6. I'm not religious at all and find religion to bring more harm than good, Bonos speeches with a religious tone don't interest me at all. At the start of IE Tour I thought he was ripping and kicking a bible during RBW which made me excited, but turned out it was just another book

    About his other speeches etc. I don't care for them either, I just want them to make music. Also most of the things Bono has concern about aren't mainly thing I care for, or I have a different opinion about it.
  7. Though I am an atheist, I volunteer for the local YMCA because they do a lot for kids. Refugee kids as well. I don't need religion to help. Neither does Bono. He just sometimes mixes both up too much.
    Iits good what he is doing with One and Red but I guess most of us if they volunteer or do anything are more interested in helping their local kids, unemployed, homeless or sick they see everyday.

    Still if Bono pulls out money of rich guys I'm all with him.
  8. Originally posted by MacStripey:Was tempted to get my hands on the Super Deluxe thingy, just because - but then, why?!? Way too expensive
    Pre-ordered the simple dvd,and that's it. Should do perfectly fine.

    it's going for $315AUD here, that's like 3 GA tickets for their concerts lol.

    standard blu-ray for me i think.
  9. Originally posted by sparko:I'm an atheist and I simply ignore when Bono gets too religious.
    He's also just a little bit too preachy sometimes.
    ie refugee crisis. Talking about letting refugees in might help some people to overthink the topic....but well, he isn't the one having to live with all of this right in front of his nose. But we are. I don't have a problem with refugees. But with Nazis burning down houses, beating people up etc. Right in my neighborhood.
    And when you then see him talking about this topic you just think: dude, walk in my shoes for a mile and learn, it's not that simple as you think it is.

    Sometimes he should simply remember he's a rockstar, not a politician. It's good having some good causes to support. But he sometimes runs way behind the goal.

    I'm still fine he's using the stage as his platform. It's correct, people listen to rockstars and he might reach some. Even one person changing their mind is success. But he knows even the band sometimes roll their eyes about it and he should just put it down a bit on some days. I do understand that some people really have a problem with all of that. A rock concert is to enjoy, and leave the daily problems outside but Bono takes them in.
    I actually strongly disagree with this view. Yes, Bono is a rockstar, but he is actually incredibly knowledgeable on global issues and has probably walked more miles with the needy and forgotten in society than most of us will in our entire lives. I would say Bono is probably more knowledgeable on issues of social justice than most politicians.
  10. Sure, he is interested a lot more and he knows a lot. But knowing facts and experiencing them yourself in daily life are two different things.
    He visited the refugees in Turkey and Egypt. Fine. But he didn't live a week in a city full of nazis, dealing with the other side of the topic. For like 2-3 years now, the (way too) right-sighted parties are getting more and more votes here, they demonstrate every week, they set refugee homes at fire and beat journalists up and the police doesn't do justice and Merkel completely failed on the whole topic.

    Bono doesn't live in Germany. He might visit a day or two, lives in a five star hotel, gets driven around in a big limousine and doesn't see much more than nice restaurants, hotels, airports and maybe an expensive office of a politician or two.

    Yes he went to Africa, lived there and all. But like I said, many are more interested helping people they know or see every day instead of people far far away. There are many problems in Germany, actually a rich western country but 50% have to take 2-3 jobs to pay their bills (one of many examples). Politics are way more complex than a single rockstar overlooks. The real problems you see, when you live here. That's why I would never discuss like Irish politics or Greek politics.
    Bono wants to help, sure, it's all good intentions. But he cannot know all, because he doesn't live the same life.
    That's the same with our politicians. They don't know how it is to live in Germany, they never lived a "normal" life. Currently our politics is more like a showcase of power, than politics.
    And Bono will not solve these problems. So I don't wanna really hear him talking about things he simply cannot know, though even he collected facts about them.

    You can study every single fact medically and technically about a roller coaster ride. But you still have no idea how it feels, when you never done one.
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  12. Unfortunately, I can't quote multiple users at once;

    My point is, Bono and I have different views about the actual crisis in Europe, I really hate to hear him being complacent with terrorism.

    After seeing that cop in Paris on the ground being summarily shot by a terrorist, I don't have any mercy about the refugee's crisis.
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