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  1. Here's an interesting one, really sounds like Hilary's for Mexicans.
  2. In this video the subject is "illegal immigrants," not "Mexicans."
    The fact that most illegal immigrants crossing the South border are Mexicans does not say that ALL Mexicans are illegal immigrants.

    This mixings of terms is not correct.

    PS: I do not hear the "racist comments" - Neither "illegal immigrants," nor "Mexicans" are a race. In fact there is only ONE race: the HUMAN RACE (AMHS)
  3. Originally posted by BigGiRL:[..]
    In this video the subject is "illegal immigrants," not "Mexicans."
    The fact that most illegal immigrants crossing the South border are Mexicans does not say that ALL Mexicans are illegal immigrants.

    This mixings of terms is not correct.
    She actually specifically mentions Mexicans at the beginning. Also she made the argument for illegal immigrants with children to be deported one of the key things that I had a struggle with in Trumps plans. I don't actullay think she's racist but I do believe her own beliefs on immigration are pretty close to Trumps, and so far Trump is being more than reasonable suggesting only those with criminal records are targeted first, admittedly the 3 million figure might be a little high. On a different note the eagles of death metal front man was denied entry to the Bataclan last night, I didn't realise he had accused Muslim staff of the venue as possibly being responsible for the attacks, makes the assosciation with u2 pretty bad, not u2's fault however but still doesn't look good.
  4. Sorry I should rephrase the above not responsible for but he said security staff were 'in on' the attacks. And I've now seen commments from EODM manager claiming they weren't turned away or even trying to get in, however I still don't like his suggestion about the security guards.
  5. Originally posted by deanallison:[..]
    She actually specifically mentions Mexicans at the beginning. Also she made the argument for illegal immigrants with children to be deported one of the key things that I had a struggle with in Trumps plans. I don't actullay think she's racist but I do believe her own beliefs on immigration are pretty close to Trumps, and so far Trump is being more than reasonable suggesting only those with criminal records are targeted first, admittedly the 3 million figure might be a little high.
    She is talking about illegal immigrants coming from Mexico, nothing more, nothing less. But that doesn't mean that ALL Mexicans are illegal immigrants. Many Mexicans are LEGAL immigrants. That's all I'm saying.

    It only makes sense to uphold the law, and the law should be respected by all.
    If the law is not doing what it supposed to do, then the law must be changed.
    There is nothing liberal, social, or extreme about that - No wonder you find these
    ideas expressed on both sides.

    Originally posted by deanallison:On a different note the eagles of death metal front man was denied entry to the Bataclan last night, I didn't realise he had accused Muslim staff of the venue as possibly being responsible for the attacks, makes the assosciation with u2 pretty bad, not u2's fault however but still doesn't look good.
    This is actually denied by the manager of EODM: "[The band member] never even tried entering the club for Sting's show." See: http://www.billboard.com/articles/news/7573575/bataclan-kicks-out-eagles-of-death-metal-sting-concert

    BTW: the attacks were done by extremists and disapproved by almost every (true) Muslim in the world. The terrorists are the bad people, not the Muslims!

    Remember Coexist (2005)
  6. On the top of the video it says:
    "HILLARY'S HATEFUL RACIST comments - AGAINST IMMIGRANTS"

    But, dear friends, there are no hateful racist comments in that video. They are just not there!
    Mrs. Clinton talks about illegal immigrants (coming from Mexico), that's all.

    The subject title of the video is misleading!
  7. I did point out that there manager denied that in my next comment however he definitely was questioning the integrity of the security, that can't be denied because I've seen it with my own eyes. I don't blame Muslims for the attack for one minute either, I don't see the extremists as Muslim extremists just extremists and actually Muslims are some of the biggest group of protestors to these extremists and there actions. The video may be misleading but as sensible adults we can take from it that she is very against illegal immigrants the same way trump is. Some of Trumps remarks have been foolish but I'd say no worse than that. For example the speech where he suggested Mexicans were drug dealers and rapists he also finished by saying he assumed some were good people. He also stated that Legal immigrants were the backbone of the country and previously I agreed his remarks about the judge were wrong but having watched some more footage I think he was implying there was a conflict of interest, I don't think he was saying the judge wasn't qualified or capable but rather was bias in this particular case against him as the judge probably wouldn't like him, I'm a football (soccer) fan and support Celtic it's like me saying a rangers fan would be biased against me, doesn't mean I don't like rangers fans, so it's easy to pick and chose all the controversial remarks but you have to put it in context. Again some of his remarks were stupid but I don't think for a minute he's racist. If your Mexican and legally living in the U.S. in four years time once the term is up I'd like to know exactly what he has done to negatively effect your life by imposing racist policies, my guess will be zero and I'm also predicting that in the next four years he'll be thinking more about what he says and cutting out the controversial things he was saying to gain power and opt for a more civil tone.
  8. Originally posted by deanallison:I did point out that there manager denied that in my next comment however he definitely was questioning the integrity of the security, that can't be denied because I've seen it with my own eyes.
    Yes you did...I didn't see that while I was typing... And as far as questioning the integrity of the security after you've just witnessed a massacre at you own gig...it is very understandable. No need to be harsh on the poor man...

    Originally posted by deanallison: [...] and I'm also predicting that in the next four years he'll be thinking more about what he says and cutting out the controversial things he was saying to gain power and opt for a more civil tone.
    This I certainly hope for! And I also hope that he gives Mrs. Clinton a break and let President Clinton and his wife retire peacefully. That would be best for all. The campaign was hard and mean from both sides, but now the battle is over and Christmas is holidays are coming
  9. Originally posted by BigGiRL:[..]
    Yes you did...I didn't see that while I was typing... And as far as questioning the integrity of the security after you've just witnessed a massacre at you own gig...it is very understandable. No need to be harsh on the poor man...

    [..]
    This I certainly hope for! And I also hope that he gives Mrs. Clinton a break and let President Clinton and his wife retire peacefully. That would be best for all. The campaign was hard and mean from both sides, but now the battle is over and Christmas is holidays are coming
    Yeah maybe his emotions were a bit over the place after the incident he did apologise afterwards. Just think it's a careless thing to say but yeah maybe I should cut him a bit of slack on this one. I do believe also he'll give the Clintons a break, I don't think he's said anything negative about them since he won and he seems to be focused on more important stuff.
  10. deanallison you are obviously not from america. You have made statements that are untrue and are sympathizing with this guy trump who HAS indeed stated many racist, misogynist , homophobic and other unacceptable things. If you think the media is to blame for this then you are sorely uninformed. I just went through the past year of hell watching this asshole stir up all kinds of bigotry and all you got is hillary's emails........what a bunch of fools that think this idiot will do anything good for america. He lives in a gold door tower .....do you think he thinks about the little guy in Ohio while he is taking a dump on his gold toilet? Oh and by the way Hillary won the popular vote and the election.....there is this archaic thing in the USA called the electoral college.....that is the only way Drumpf won..........
  11. Like Bono said in California not too long ago and before the election regarding voting for Donald Trump "What have you got to lose?......EVERYTHING!!!!"
    read up on how much he is going to f everything up......like the planet! Lets destroy our national parks for oil exploration! Lets abolish abortion so no woman will have a safe medical procedure!.....lets make america white again. lets torture anyone who is not white and the same as the good ole boys......Yes, there are many of us who are frightened not just for america but for the planet! Why do you think ISIS is rejoicing! More recruits for them!
  12. Originally posted by peatiedog:deanallison you are obviously not from america. You have made statements that are untrue and are sympathizing with this guy trump who HAS indeed stated many racist, misogynist , homophobic and other unacceptable things. If you think the media is to blame for this then you are sorely uninformed. I just went through the past year of hell watching this asshole stir up all kinds of bigotry and all you got is hillary's emails........what a bunch of fools that think this idiot will do anything good for america. He lives in a gold door tower .....do you think he thinks about the little guy in Ohio while he is taking a dump on his gold toilet? Oh and by the way Hillary won the popular vote and the election.....there is this archaic thing in the USA called the electoral college.....that is the only way Drumpf won..........
    What is being from America got to do with anything I can still educate myself enough to know what I'm talking about. Every statement I've made is true and there is video footage all over the place to back me up. I have never mentioned Hilary's emails and don't really care about defending trump just stating what i see. The media and people who chose to pick out parts of statements are to blame, and your foolish enough to fall for it too. All the things you accuse him of being (racist, homophobic, misogynist) I really don't believe he is. Making a remark isn't the same has having a genuine belief about how you feel about someone, i stand by my belief that trump doesn't have a hatred or a dislike towards legal immigrants regardless of where there from and regardless of there race, gender or sexual orientation. I do. Relive he sees illegal immigration as a massive problem and wants to solve it, his comments since winning the election (and yes he did win the election because the electoral college is how it's decided in the U.S a bit like our voting here in the U.K. Actually) however have been more positive and he clearly doesn't want to see people suffer but wants to get rid of people with criminal records and I think he's even keen on jailing US citizens who are committing drug offences so it's nothing to do with race or nationality. I believe he cares very much about his country and the people in it and wants to see it thriving, whether or not he's capable of changing anything significantly for the better remains to be seen but I think he'll give it a go and won't go a controversial way about it.
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