Originally posted by amansman:[..]
+1. The best is when religious people tell you that morality comes from their particular religion
Originally posted by amansman:[..]
+1. The best is when religious people tell you that morality comes from their particular religion
Originally posted by bpt3:[..]
I'm sorry that this has been your experience of Christians and religious people in general, I truly am. But to judge an entire way of life based on your own personal bad experiences seems a little closed-minded, too, doesn't it? As a religious person I try to refrain from assuming that all non-religious individuals like yourselves are "closed-minded", even though I've certainly met people who are unwilling to question their own basic assumptions about reality...such as where does their sense of basic human dignity and anger at injustice stem from? Can I ask where your own sense of what constitutes "prejudice" is based on?
For instance, if you concede that moral judgments can in fact be made; for instance, that banning entire groups of at-risk people from Muslim countries is wrong - and I think you and I agree on very much politically, from what I've read on this forum! - then where does that judgment come from? If morality is simply subjective based on the majority's will - no God or transcendent source of morality - then can you really argue that prejudice against Muslims is "wrong"?
To circle back to where we agree and to keep this on topic with politics in this thread -- this is why as a Christian I am feeling compelled to speak out against Trump's policies. I've mentioned before how ironic and sad it is that the same Christians who helped vote him into office seem to become moral relativists when it comes to his statements and now policies concerning immigrants, refugees, and foreigners of all kind, when Scripture and Jesus' example is clear to "welcome the stranger."
Sorry for talking too much again.
Originally posted by kris_smith87:[..]
Maybe you are one of the good ones. I just think all religions are wrong. And believing in it makes you a closed minded person. I am interested in knowing WHY people believe in it...especially smart, liberal people. But that is semantics. Trump is terrible. Is that better?
Originally posted by thefly108:Looks like we need a philosophy thread.
Originally posted by bpt3:[..]
If we want to continue in a separate philosophy-type thread as suggested, I'd be all for it!
For now, I'll just use Bono as an example - do you genuinely consider him as a believer a "closed-minded" person? To keep this grounded in the politics thread, Bono is one of the people I respect most in terms of having an authentic faith that he connects with practical social justice advocacy and political action in the world.
Originally posted by kris_smith87:[..]
Absolutely. But Bono is also one of the good ones. I still think he is wrong about the existence of God but he works in what I believe to be good, moral, and helpful (and mysterious) ways.
Originally posted by LikeASong:[..]
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Period.
General Philosophy Topic
Originally posted by amansman:You should go to the middleast and tell them your idea. Spread the word! This is a great idea! Go over there and get everyone on board. Wish I would of thought of this
Originally posted by ahn1991:[..]
I'd like to reform my previous statement regarding uneducated Americans. I don't think all of Trump's supporters are uneducated, but I know with great certainty this one is.
Originally posted by ahn1991:[..]
I'd like to reform my previous statement regarding uneducated Americans. I don't think all of Trump's supporters are uneducated, but I know with great certainty this one is.
