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  1. Originally posted by MattG:I have no idea what European venues are owned by Live Nation or not, but there were rumors that U2 toured this anniversary in the first place just to knock another tour out of their contract with Live Nation.

    Could it be industry politics that keep money in the hands of Live Nation, and not other international promoters that may still dominate some of those markets / countries you're discussing?

    This is a serious question up for discussion, I really don't know if there's any validity to any of it.
    Valid question. Not sure. But maybe you can help me with Live Nation routing logic. Still boggles my mind that a market like Atlanta has been skipped (I get it on i/e, sort of) But you've got Pittsburgh, Tampa and Louisville. All still with tickets available. And no Atlanta. Blows my mind...
  2. 1 show in Sao Paulo, that's a STEAL.

  4. no... I spent a shit ton of money on tickets for Rock in Rio and I'm gonna spent another shit ton of money to go to Rock in Rio.... Only a miracle will make me see U2
  5. Originally posted by blueeyedboy:[..]
    Valid question. Not sure. But maybe you can help me with Live Nation routing logic. Still boggles my mind that a market like Atlanta has been skipped (I get it on i/e, sort of) But you've got Pittsburgh, Tampa and Louisville. All still with tickets available. And no Atlanta. Blows my mind...
    It could boil down to any of the following:

    1. The market was skipped on I&E because it didn't route, and now that it does, the venue was not available on the only one or two dates U2 could financially make it work without spending an extra day off - days off cost an absurd amount of money while on tour. Obviously U2 can afford it when they want to, but sometimes it doesn't make any sense in routing.

    2. I don't really know how else to phrase this but as a harsh reality...touring is first and foremost a business, including (and especially) to U2. It isn't really about "we haven't been to Atlanta in so long!"...if there's MORE money to be made elsewhere - proven history of higher ticket sales, or at higher dollars - in other markets that would financially make more sense, that's where they're prioritizing. An agent might grab a date from Atlanta if one of the more profitable markets doesn't have availability in the routing, if that's the case.

    Keep in mind, as harsh as it sounds, U2 are not picking the cities they are playing. They are not choosing the routing of the tour. They are not negotiating the ticket prices. They are consulted and their management team has the final say on every date, which I'm sure is a further consultation with the band, but none of the plans are put forward by the men on the stage.

    Huge bands more or less show up and play. Hence the numerous instances of "Hello, Seattle!" when you're really in Portland, and so on and so forth.
  6. I get all that. My point about Atlanta is its the hub of the southeast. It was listed in those dates that were floating around, so it may still happen. But financially, a much safer bet than Louisville or Tampa... and logistically... from Miami to Tampa you're ending up in Atlanta with your trucks anyway...

    Many bands (not at U2 level of course) don't even go any further south than Atlanta for logistical reasons... and they know historically fans in the south will travel to Atlanta. And as the busiest airport in the country, international fans can fly direct to Atlanta.

    Anyway... no arguing, and certainly no expert. Thats just my pretzel logic...

  7. Originally posted by blueeyedboy:I get all that. My point about Atlanta is its the hub of the southeast. It was listed in those dates that were floating around, so it may still happen. But financially, a much safer bet than Louisville or Tampa... and logistically... from Miami to Tampa you're ending up in Atlanta with your trucks anyway...

    Many bands (not at U2 level of course) don't even go any further south than Atlanta for logistical reasons... and they know historically fans in the south will travel to Atlanta. And as the busiest airport in the country, international fans can fly direct to Atlanta.

    Anyway... no arguing, and certainly no expert. Thats just my pretzel logic...

    Oh no worries, I don't see it as an argument at all - you're absolutely right, and even my points about it "not being affordable for a tour" really doesn't apply to U2. They can make it work if they really want to, and I agree that it doesn't make a whole lot of sense to NOT do Atlanta on a stadium tour.

    I wonder if - since Atlanta was on the itinerary that was posted - perhaps it was planned, and then just didn't confirm. We accidentally "leak" touring dates that were in our clients' routing all of the time, just because when we copy/paste an itinerary to anyone outside our office, sometimes we've just forgotten to delete our work-in-progress
  8. Possibly. Or I'm wondering if they are still trying to book the new stadium. Not sure if it matters to them, or if its even in their memory banks, but they were the first band to play the Georgia Dome, which the new stadium is replacing. Wondering if maybe they are trying to tepeat by being the 1st to play new (state of the art) stadium as opposed to the previously leaked college stadium. Just a thought...

    Either way, in this case I've invested enough to travel to Miami and with summer concert season in full swing and a limited wallet, it'll almost be less stressful if they don't add Atlanta.
  9. Nice!!!
  10. Afghan Whigs, Swervedriver, The Alarm, The Fixx, Kasey Chambers, Social Distortion, Adam Ant... Plenty to keep me occupied.
  11. hi BLUEEYEDBOY....Atlanta is for sure not between Miami and Tampa....just sayin....
  12. No... but to get out of Florida, you go where? Through Georgia. Ok, ok... unless you add a few extra taking I-10 across the panhandle to Alabama. Maybe I didn't word it so good. . (And I'm talking the semis with all the stage, not the band flying in and out...

    Like I mentioned, a lot of (smaller than stadium and not rich enough to jet everywhere) artists don't go further south than Atlanta because Florida is a long, narrow corridor and the mileage often doesn't outweigh the gain (as Matt mentioned, it's business and for most bands, their bread and butter)

    I was not dissing your hometown in any sense of the matter, brother, so don't take offense. I made may a trek across Alligator Alley in my youth to punk out in Ybor City!
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