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2017-07-29 - Amsterdam
 Tour: Joshua Tree Tour 2017
Songs played: 23
Audio recordings: 4
Videos: 1
  1. Originally posted by JeroenAFCA:[..]
    The gaps are left for a reason... So people in front don't get cramped and get unwell. If you and 500 other people decide to fill those gaps because they feel they have the right to get in front of the stage without making an effort, is the readon why there should be closed parts. That is all I am saying...
    I am not trying to be patronising, just thinking of the people that make an effort to get good places in front of the stage.
    We could go on all day, I'll just leave it by saying we obviously don't agree with each other, I have a full understanding with what you are saying but don't agree, however, I'am always happy to listen and debate a point of view but we have reached a stage where that won't achieve anything. I sincerely hope you enjoy the show tonight.
  2. Originally posted by deanallison:[..]
    We could go on all day, I'll just leave it by saying we obviously don't agree with each other, I have a full understanding with what you are saying but don't agree, however, I'am always happy to listen and debate a point of view but we have reached a stage where that won't achieve anything. I sincerely hope you enjoy the show tonight.
    What don't you agree with, if I may ask? Because that seems to be what I am missing here...

    Thanks, It's U2 so I will enjoy the show. Without any doubt....
  3. Originally posted by JeroenAFCA:[..]
    What don't you agree with, if I may ask? Because that seems to be what I am missing here...

    Thanks, It's U2 so I will enjoy the show. Without any doubt....
    I don't agree that filling the spaces is causing the people at the front to get cramped and fell unwell. If I was trying to barge my way into a space half the size of me then yes that would be different as I wouldn't be trying to fill a space but rather create a space which would inevitably impact others around me and have a knock on effect with those in the front. If I make my way towards a space that is ample size for me then I argue it shouldn't have been there in the first place. Once I got my spot near the front I didn't feel cramped nor did anyone in front of me at the rail get pushed towards it or lose space.
  4. Originally posted by deanallison:[..]
    I don't agree that filling the spaces is causing the people at the front to get cramped and fell unwell. If I was trying to barge my way into a space half the size of me then yes that would be different as I wouldn't be trying to fill a space but rather create a space which would inevitably impact others around me and have a knock on effect with those in the front. If I make my way towards a space that is ample size for me then I argue it shouldn't have been there in the first place. Once I got my spot near the front I didn't feel cramped nor did anyone in front of me at the rail get pushed towards it or lose space.
    Fully agree that filling"gaps" didn't cause the problem.
    This happens at every concert.
    From the 4 GA's I've attended Ams was the most humid within the venue.
    Also it had the most people sat on the floor before NG started.
    When his set started there were massive natural movements of people.
  5. Originally posted by deanallison:[..]
    I don't agree that filling the spaces is causing the people at the front to get cramped and fell unwell. If I was trying to barge my way into a space half the size of me then yes that would be different as I wouldn't be trying to fill a space but rather create a space which would inevitably impact others around me and have a knock on effect with those in the front. If I make my way towards a space that is ample size for me then I argue it shouldn't have been there in the first place. Once I got my spot near the front I didn't feel cramped nor did anyone in front of me at the rail get pushed towards it or lose space.
    So that is where we differ in opinion. The gaps you try to fill are there so that people in front don't feel cramped, as I said. The fact that you think you have the right to feel that space is the reason why people in front have to get taken out of the crowd or decide to leave the front and go the back... I don't agree with that, sorry...
    And, again, you are not the only one that thinks they can get in front by moving through the gaps.
    That is why there should be closed parts.
  6. Originally posted by andybrock:[..]
    Fully agree that filling"gaps" didn't cause the problem.
    This happens at every concert.
    From the 4 GA's I've attended Ams was the most humid within the venue.
    Also it had the most people sat on the floor before NG started.
    When his set started there were massive natural movements of people.
    That is why there should be closed parts...
  9. Originally posted by JeroenAFCA:[..]
    So that is where we differ in opinion. The gaps you try to fill are there so that people in front don't feel cramped, as I said. The fact that you think you have the right to feel that space is the reason why people in front have to get taken out of the crowd or decide to leave the front and go the back... I don't agree with that, sorry...
    And, again, you are not the only one that thinks they can get in front by moving through the gaps.
    That is why there should be closed parts.
    The gaps are not there for that reason though, if you feel cramped when someone is filling a perfectly reasonable sized space in front of you then you shouldn't be in ga. Remember the gaps are not all the same size and are only determined by where people chose to stand, i think people chose to stand too far apart sometimes and therefore will take the space they have left. Put it this way if you were standing with your mate your not going to ask them to move over a bit to give you room, I wouldn't even be as close to you as your mate would be so there's nothing to complain about.
  11. Originally posted by deanallison:[..]
    The gaps are not there for that reason though, if you feel cramped when someone is filling a perfectly reasonable sized space in front of you then you shouldn't be in ga. Remember the gaps are not all the same size and are only determined by where people chose to stand, i think people chose to stand too far apart sometimes and therefore will take the space they have left. Put it this way if you were standing with your mate your not going to ask them to move over a bit to give you room, I wouldn't even be as close to you as your mate would be so there's nothing to complain about.
    My mate left the place we had in front of the stage, because he felt cramped. With him other people left aswell, which will give people like you space to move further up to the front...
    It is ok... But, personally, I would not be able to do what do. I would feel very bad for the people that have been waiting all day...
    But that is what we seem to disagree on...
  12. Originally posted by JeroenAFCA:[..]
    My mate left the place we had in front of the stage, because he felt cramped. With him other people left aswell, which will give people like you space to move further up to the front...
    It is ok... But, personally, I would not be able to do what do. I would feel very bad for the people that have been waiting all day...
    But that is what we seem to disagree on...
    Yes I think we disagree on what is a comfortable amount of space. When your ga at a big concert I think you have to accept it's going to get a little crowded. Of course I have sympathy for your mate but ultimately if you can't handle people being too near you ga isn't the place for you.
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