Joshua Tree Tour 2019
Legs (1): New Zealand, Australia and Asia
Shows: 15
  1. It could help. Metallica seemed to be doing really well this year with the new movie and everything.
  2. I was super sure that they'd end all JT2017 shows with 40. Then the tour started and 40 was nowhere to be seen, and then I thought they'd play it at least once in Brussels to close the tour. Then they announced the third leg, 40 was still nowhere to be seen in Europe, and I thought "ok, they surely must be saving it for the very last concert in Sao Paulo like they did in Moncton"... And nothing. So I am not holding my breath this time around I'm afraid
  3. Originally posted by LikeASong:[..]
    I was super sure that they'd end all JT2017 shows with 40. Then the tour started and 40 was nowhere to be seen, and then I thought they'd play it at least once in Brussels to close the tour. Then they announced the third leg, 40 was still nowhere to be seen in Europe, and I thought "ok, they surely must be saving it for the very last concert in Sao Paulo like they did in Moncton"... And nothing. So I am not holding my breath this time around I'm afraid
    I don't get why they didn't play it even on the E&I tour it should have been the closing song instead of the snooze fest that was 13.I don't see why they can't revolve the set list around TJT songs on a regular basis throw in Gloria,Out of Control, Electric co, The Fly ,Wild Horses etc it shouldn't be so static one of the things they always said in interviews is that they wanted the shows to be spontaneous but since Zoo TV it's been anything but.
  4. Originally posted by popmarter:[..]
    I don't get why they didn't play it even on the E&I tour it should have been the closing song instead of the snooze fest that was 13.I don't see why they can't revolve the set list around TJT songs on a regular basis throw in Gloria,Out of Control, Electric co, The Fly ,Wild Horses etc it shouldn't be so static one of the things they always said in interviews is that they wanted the shows to be spontaneous but since Zoo TV it's been anything but.
    Spontaneity wasn't in their minds for the ei tour. They clearly wanted to tell a story with a carefully chosen set of songs, which inevitably restrained them. That was their purpose. Bono said in an interview in Amsterdan 2018 that he had to hit some specific marks on stage and that also made him less spontaneous as a performer. But, that's their choice, they wanted to tell their story how they imagined it and that left no room for being spontaneous.
    They closed many shows with 40 on the ie tour and in 2018 they obviously felt the story of the show ended with 13 and that's why they didn't even consider changing it. For the upcoming JT2019 tour I believe they'll come up with a fixed setlist which they will consider perfect. They'll be playing in places they haven't been to in years or in some cases ever, so it makes sense why there probably won't be any song rotation, but I do hope the non - JT parts of the setlist will be different than 2017.
    If they do another big world tour after 2020, then maybe they'll focus more on setlist variation rather than a specific storytelling. After all, they did tell their story in 2018, so there's no need for another tour about that.
  5. Man I hope they mix it up some on the next tour. No arching setlist, no storytelling, no "Bono: The Musical". Just be U2, playing U2 songs. That's what I liked about 360.

    The best U2 setlist I've ever seen was actually a U2 Tribute Band I saw. They'd do Ultraviolet into Gloria into Bullet into I will follow into Beautiful Day into Desire into The Fly... etc. It flowed just fine. I'd just like to see something like that, a little more spontaneity.
  6. YES, a thousand times YES. Even though we've all discussed this issue to death in a million different topics
  7. I wonder if they haven't played 40 regularly because 90% of the crowd doesn't sing the "how long" part anymore - they just don't know that tradition. Could be disheartening for the band.

    I used to think 40 should be the last song they ever play live together - but the more I think about it, the more I think honour should go to Out of Control. "We're a band from Dublin, Ireland - we're called U2 and this is our first single. We hope you like it!" Gives me goosebumps every time Bono says it, no matter how cliche it might be
  8. Originally posted by RattleandHum1988:I wonder if they haven't played 40 regularly because 90% of the crowd doesn't sing the "how long" part anymore - they just don't know that tradition. Could be disheartening for the band.

    I used to think 40 should be the last song they ever play live together - but the more I think about it, the more I think honour should go to Out of Control. "We're a band from Dublin, Ireland - we're called U2 and this is our first single. We hope you like it!" Gives me goosebumps every time Bono says it, no matter how cliche it might be
    I've only lived it once, in Amsterdam 2015, and everyone around me sang it pretty loudly. I know one's perception of a show is biased due to where are you located (the closest to the stage usually the more engaged and vocal the crowd is) and some other factors, but I'd say 40 is still generally very well received. Maybe it isn't as powerful of a singalong as Still Haven't Found or One, but it isn't a Drowning Man either


    PS. Agreed on Out Of Control. It should be their last song ever.

    PPS. After 40.
  9. Originally posted by iamcrazytonight:[..]
    Spontaneity wasn't in their minds for the ei tour. They clearly wanted to tell a story with a carefully chosen set of songs, which inevitably restrained them. That was their purpose. Bono said in an interview in Amsterdan 2018 that he had to hit some specific marks on stage and that also made him less spontaneous as a performer. But, that's their choice, they wanted to tell their story how they imagined it and that left no room for being spontaneous.
    They closed many shows with 40 on the ie tour and in 2018 they obviously felt the story of the show ended with 13 and that's why they didn't even consider changing it. For the upcoming JT2019 tour I believe they'll come up with a fixed setlist which they will consider perfect. They'll be playing in places they haven't been to in years or in some cases ever, so it makes sense why there probably won't be any song rotation, but I do hope the non - JT parts of the setlist will be different than 2017.
    If they do another big world tour after 2020, then maybe they'll focus more on setlist variation rather than a specific storytelling. After all, they did tell their story in 2018, so there's no need for another tour about that.
    Most don't care about the narrative they just wanna hear the best songs played live and BTW they dramatically changed the set list half way through the E&I tour and added a lot of Achtung baby songs, having such an extensive back catalogue there should be room for variation particularly in the encore when most of the audience are well inebriated
  10. Originally posted by LikeASong:[..]
    I've only lived it once, in Amsterdam 2015, and everyone around me sang it pretty loudly. I know one's perception of a show is biased due to where are you located (the closest to the stage usually the more engaged and vocal the crowd is) and some other factors, but I'd say 40 is still generally very well received. Maybe it isn't as powerful of a singalong as Still Haven't Found or One, but it isn't a Drowning Man either


    PS. Agreed on Out Of Control. It should be their last song ever.

    PPS. After 40.
    Good point, good point.

    And I can agree to those conditions
  11. Roughly 6.15 in the Glasgow crowd seemed to know 40 well enough