1. i'm usually not even bothered when I read criticism of U2, especially by yet another clearly misinformed celebrity / artist who just wants to sound intelligent by ripping on someone famous & respected.

    i must say, though, after reading the criticism of 1) the Arcade Fire about U2 & Oasis' ambition and 2) the Pet Shop Boys about U2 benefit concerts, i find myself, well... amused. very. very. amused. i don't think i even need to explain, but one may forget that...

    U2 let the Arcade Fire open up for them on a few shows on the Vertigo Tour. More importantly, U2 used their hit "Wake Up" as the introduction song to all 131 Vertigo Tour shows around the world, spanning 2 years. Thousands of people now know of the Arcade Fire only because they have asked the question, "what's the artist and name of that song that opens up U2's concerts?" U2 has given them more exposure than their record label's marketing department ever will. (of course, this is probably not important to them at all, given the criticism on music marketing, they probably don't want to get bigger than they are). Wake Up is even on the Chicago DVD. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe that entitles the Arcade Fire to millions of copies worth of royalties.

    U2 allowed Pet Shop Boys to take possibly the most powerful song ever written (Where The Streets Have No Name) and absolutely butcher it with their cover rendition, turning it into a eurotrash pop number and mixing it with "I Can't Take My Eyes Off Of You." The snippet doesn't even fit. Why'd they do it? Apparently out of jest, to show that the two lines are delivered in a similar manner. U2 also allows them to take this piece of crap and play it live to this day.

    Yet both bands feel the need to go on public record and criticize a hand that has fed them quite generously.

    Interesting, and curious...
  2. Yeah, absolutely right. Both bands remind me of Henry Rollins, who became number 1 anti-U2, because Brian Eno didn't want to work with him. I think Arcade Fire shouldn't critize "ambition" since they make such grandilocuent albums.
  3. Originally posted by u2met86i'm usually not even bothered when I read criticism of U2, especially by yet another clearly misinformed celebrity / artist who just wants to sound intelligent by ripping on someone famous & respected.

    i must say, though, after reading the criticism of 1) the Arcade Fire about U2 & Oasis' ambition and 2) the Pet Shop Boys about U2 benefit concerts, i find myself, well... amused. very. very. amused. i don't think i even need to explain, but one may forget that...

    U2 let the Arcade Fire open up for them on a few shows on the Vertigo Tour. More importantly, U2 used their hit "Wake Up" as the introduction song to all 131 Vertigo Tour shows around the world, spanning 2 years. Thousands of people now know of the Arcade Fire only because they have asked the question, "what's the artist and name of that song that opens up U2's concerts?" U2 has given them more exposure than their record label's marketing department ever will. (of course, this is probably not important to them at all, given the criticism on music marketing, they probably don't want to get bigger than they are). Wake Up is even on the Chicago DVD. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe that entitles the Arcade Fire to millions of copies worth of royalties.

    U2 allowed Pet Shop Boys to take possibly the most powerful song ever written (Where The Streets Have No Name) and absolutely butcher it with their cover rendition, turning it into a eurotrash pop number and mixing it with "I Can't Take My Eyes Off Of You." The snippet doesn't even fit. Why'd they do it? Apparently out of jest, to show that the two lines are delivered in a similar manner. U2 also allows them to take this piece of crap and play it live to this day.

    Yet both bands feel the need to go on public record and criticize a hand that has fed them quite generously.

    Interesting, and curious...


    You are completely right. Those bands must know that they have become more known because of U2, especially Arcade Fire. Why are the complaining? I cannot understand!
  4. Originally posted by redguitaronfireYeah, absolutely right. Both bands remind me of Henry Rollins, who became number 1 anti-U2, because Brian Eno didn't want to work with him.


    oh my goodness, that makes so much sense now!

    thank you for clearing that up. i never understood this man's unbridled hatred for U2, now i get it. always thought he was a bit weirdo, though.
  5. Originally posted by u2met86

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    U2 let the Arcade Fire open up for them on a few shows on the Vertigo Tour. More importantly, U2 used their hit "Wake Up" as the introduction song to all 131 Vertigo Tour shows around the world, spanning 2 years. Thousands of people now know of the Arcade Fire only because they have asked the question, "what's the artist and name of that song that opens up U2's concerts?" U2 has given them more exposure than their record label's marketing department ever will. (of course, this is probably not important to them at all, given the criticism on music marketing, they probably don't want to get bigger than they are). Wake Up is even on the Chicago DVD. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe that entitles the Arcade Fire to millions of copies worth of royalties.

    ....



    Talk about bite the hand that feeds....

    And the new album is a load of pretentious twaddle
  6. Yeah it seems odd that Arcade Fire would say something like that after u2 has given them so much exposure. But then again if it was written, there will always be doubt over its truthfulness. Authors/writers/journalists whatever you want to call them often have a habit of twisting the truth and taking things out of context to make people interested in their story. People are more interested in controversial and shocking material than simple nice stories.

    I don't understand those who genuinly are against u2. Their music rock, I dont believe they are over-rated in any way, they are not purposefuly attention seeking (I dont think) and they try to 'Help the world" (I know that sounds korny but you know what I mean).

  7. Originally posted by Angel_or_DevilYeah it seems odd that Arcade Fire would say something like that after u2 has given them so much exposure. But then again if it was written, there will always be doubt over its truthfulness. Authors/writers/journalists whatever you want to call them often have a habit of twisting the truth and taking things out of context to make people interested in their story. People are more interested in controversial and shocking material than simple nice stories.

    I don't understand those who genuinly are against u2. Their music rock, I dont believe they are over-rated in any way, they are not purposefuly attention seeking (I dont think) and they try to 'Help the world" (I know that sounds korny but you know what I mean).




    Good points. Although I have heard of Win Butler (the lead singer in Arcade Fire) saying similar things in several publications. Let's hope it's been exaggerated.
  8. u2met86, you're right again !
    I also read the thing about the Pet Shop Boys and i was really astonished !
    I didn't knew the whole thing about Arcade Fire but now i do and it's about the same thing...
    How do they get so stupid to critise the band that made them famous ? Jealous that U2 will remain bigger than you guys ??
  9. If you slag a band as big as U2, you will get your name in the paper, and people will read about you and become aware of you, thats all it is, a way of getting yourself out there.
  10. Originally posted by dermottferry07If you slag a band as big as U2, you will get your name in the paper, and people will read about you and become aware of you, thats all it is, a way of getting yourself out there.


    Agree. Poor people who do this. Íf you don't like them, why blame them and pay (negative) attention to them?
  11. Originally posted by dermottferry07If you slag a band as big as U2, you will get your name in the paper, and people will read about you and become aware of you, thats all it is, a way of getting yourself out there.


    Very good point.

    I just think it's ironic to get bigger by criticizing another band for being big. That's as hypocritical a strategy as getting rich by writing books that tell other people how to get rich.

    U2 has been criticized / misunderstood publicly on many other counts (by people who don't like their music, or whatever). Arcade Fire really had a wide selection of criticisms to choose and they picked one that makes themselves look bad.

    Hey MirrorballBoy, congratulations on 500!