1. Originally posted by WojBhoy:[..]
    Completely agree re. QoS, I think both the new Bond films are trying too hard to be like the Bourne films. Paul Greengrass did a fine job with Robert Ludlum's trilogy but as with everything that works out well, people try to copy the formula. Good films, but not that great. And Dark Knight was very impressive although I wasn't prepared for how dark it really was, i.e. everyone dying, lots of nasty shit doing the rounds...


    Doug Liman is almost always forgotten when it comes to the Bourne films (it may not be a trilogy for much longer...). While Greengrass did an amazing job, Liman started the whole thing off with Identity. For better or worse, the camera style used in the latter two films has influenced the shooting style of action films since. It may be the most influential technique/gimmick for the next few years. You can't even watch a TV documentary without the camera moving about, zooming arbitrarily for no reason and all manner of stylistic bollocks. Greengrass used the style to reflect his lead character's state of mind. Most other directors - without a bloody clue, it seems - mimic the style without realising what they ought to be using it for - it has become a directorial tic that more often than not serves no purpose.

    Anyway, love Bourne and Daniel Craig can say they didn't influence Bond all he likes. They did and he knows it. We all do...
  2. Originally posted by MWSAH:Talking about the Bourne's....I still need to watch them all again soon. Was planning to do so several weeks ago...

    I'm glad Bond has changed though. The Bonds with Pierce Brosnan were quite idiotic. With that rocket-lauching Aston Martin...


    Brosnan was quite good until Die Another Day
  3. Watched Little Miss Sunshine yesterday, and Religulous today. I enjoyed both, Little Miss Sunshine is a great movie
  4. Originally posted by thejonner:Doug Liman is almost always forgotten when it comes to the Bourne films (it may not be a trilogy for much longer...). While Greengrass did an amazing job, Liman started the whole thing off with Identity. For better or worse, the camera style used in the latter two films has influenced the shooting style of action films since. It may be the most influential technique/gimmick for the next few years. You can't even watch a TV documentary without the camera moving about, zooming arbitrarily for no reason and all manner of stylistic bollocks. Greengrass used the style to reflect his lead character's state of mind. Most other directors - without a bloody clue, it seems - mimic the style without realising what they ought to be using it for - it has become a directorial tic that more often than not serves no purpose.

    Anyway, love Bourne and Daniel Craig can say they didn't influence Bond all he likes. They did and he knows it. We all do...

    Argh, I forgot about Liman...some fan I am

    Personally I think the Bond concept has been squeezed for all it's worth and more, and I'm getting a bit tired of the whole business now. I used to be really into the Bond films and really up on my Bond-age* but that came to a halt a long time ago, and since Tomorrow Never Dies I just don't care for them. I've already discussed my reservations about the Daniel Craig films - I'd rather they just left the James Bond concept to rest in peace and started anew with something else, purely because there's something about the Bond 'genre' that's been missing since Goldeneye/Tomorrow Never Dies. I've always maintained that for me, the best Bond films were The Living Daylights, Licence to Kill, On Her Majesty's Secret Service and Goldeneye - the former 3 because, for the most part, I think they're pretty on the money, and the latter because it had Sean Bean

    I think the latter two Brosnan films were pretty crap - the only good things to be said about The World Is Not Enough were Robert Carlyle and Robbie Coltrane, although Sophie Marceau's presence always makes me sit up and take notice - and the Daniel Craig films are just feel like Bourne gone British. For me, James Bond died in the late 90s, and there it should have ended.

    *that was deliberate lol.
  5. Originally posted by WojBhoy:[..]
    Argh, I forgot about Liman...some fan I am

    Personally I think the Bond concept has been squeezed for all it's worth and more, and I'm getting a bit tired of the whole business now. I used to be really into the Bond films and really up on my Bond-age* but that came to a halt a long time ago, and since Tomorrow Never Dies I just don't care for them. I've already discussed my reservations about the Daniel Craig films - I'd rather they just left the James Bond concept to rest in peace and started anew with something else, purely because there's something about the Bond 'genre' that's been missing since Goldeneye/Tomorrow Never Dies. I've always maintained that for me, the best Bond films were The Living Daylights, Licence to Kill, On Her Majesty's Secret Service and Goldeneye - the former 3 because, for the most part, I think they're pretty on the money, and the latter because it had Sean Bean

    I think the latter two Brosnan films were pretty crap - the only good things to be said about The World Is Not Enough were Robert Carlyle and Robbie Coltrane, although Sophie Marceau's presence always makes me sit up and take notice - and the Daniel Craig films are just feel like Bourne gone British. For me, James Bond died in the late 90s, and there it should have ended.

    *that was deliberate lol.


    I think Craig is taking Bond in another direction and that's just in time. Die Another Day was almost over the edge. I liked Casino Royale (poor poker scenes though + too long) and I love Quantum Of Solace (videogame too). Looking forward to the next one which will include Moneypenny and Q.

    Besides that I think the Moore Bond was great too, especially The Spy Who Loved Me, Man With The Golden Gun and For Your Eyes Only. And it's sad Dalton only made two movies 'cause Living Daylights and Licence to Kill were both very good. Love Goldeneye, Tomorrow Never Dies and World Is Not Enough (especially the girls)... Connery's Bond is a bit overrated...

    And Desmon Llewelyn playing Q was just golden. Magnificent so to say. Not sure yet who is the best M but Judi Dench is doing a very good job. And the Aston Martin

    + I hope U2 will ever do the soundtrack for a Bond movie.
  6. I never cared much for bond, but the last two are amazing.

  7. That's because Daniel Craig is a badass lmao (Sexy too )

    Last movie I watched was Pulp Fiction Hooray for violent druggie movies! That film is awesome, truly is. "Aw, I think I just shot Marvin in the face!"


  8. Well, Bono and The Edge wrote Goldeneye...

    Put on Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas last night. Hell of a movie - reminds me of my youth...
  9. blood diamond

    very good movie. not quite the constant gardener league, but close. leonardo tried his best, but was still kinda miscast, imo, didn't believe his performance.
  10. Originally posted by flowerchild:blood diamond

    very good movie. not quite the constant gardener league, but close. leonardo tried his best, but was still kinda miscast, imo, didn't believe his performance.


    One of the best movies around IMO

    Watched The Bourne Identity two days ago, Supremacy will be tomorrow and Ultimatum later this week. 2nd time I watch them..great movies.
  11. Watched the third pirates of the carribean movie. Good but the first one is in another league
  12. Pineapple Express yesterday. I just don't get stoner comedies.....