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  1. Also I dont like the opinions of most parties when it comes to the retirement age. I think it should be going to 67 now, or never. In 20 years is crap, then you just drop the load on the next generation.I rather have them keep it at 65 though, I think people panic too much during this cricis.

    There can be lots of money saved without the rise of retirement age. For example i give shit for most of the subsidies, this includes the estate market. Dont get why you need to pay 100, get back 30 later instead of paying 70 directly. Also I'd like an easier tax system. Lots of people miss money because they are unaware of complex regulations. Fix percentage tax for everyone is the way to go. Remember, fix percentage means proportional to income, by definition

    Finally I'd like to challenge politicians to reduce the amount of laws and regulations, since in my opinion less is more and cheaper.

    BTW: Let the Royal Family go, no need for them. Way overpriced for what they do.
  2. Originally posted by Risto:Also I dont like the opinions of most parties when it comes to the retirement age. I think it should be going to 67 now, or never. In 20 years is crap, then you just drop the load on the next generation.I rather have them keep it at 65 though, I think people panic too much during this cricis.
    BTW: Let the Royal Family go, no need for them. Way overpriced for what they do.[/b]


    sort of agree with this, but it's not possible to make that shift directly. first move: make it a ceremional monarchy when Beatrix retires. And let them pay tax.

    It should be 67, shouldnt take too long. we all live longer.

    and about those subsidies: I understand what you mean, but that's not possible since not everything is for everyone etcetera. But some less paperwork would be nice, way too much right now
  3. 20/25 years sounds like:
    - Son i screwed up, i spend all my funds for my retirement. But you have to pay for it.

    < 10 years sounds like:
    - Well we fucked that one up, lets make it better.

    Think they are just trying to win votes. Makes it a hell lot easier to agree when you are not affected
  4. It's more about this: my parents started working full time much earlier than I will, so they have worked more, probably not gonna live longer than I will and than it's a liitle harsh and unfair for them to work two years longer. For me however, it's absolutely fair to ask that of me.
  5. Originally posted by Yogi:The incident happened in international waters, 22 miles away from Israeli territorial waters.

    The activists attacked first? They were in international waters on their own boat, Israelis were armed and invaded their ships. And I repeat, in territory that is not Israelis.

    They cause shit and the world just watches. If Turkey did that to Israeli boats I bet that everyone would kick their arse instantly and accuse them of antisemmitism.

    Few weeks ago Israeli soldiers killed 5 Palestinian young shepherds. Official Israeli statement was that one of the boys tried to slap Israeli soldier.

    I'm glad that yesterdays protests happened all around the world, from Turkey, to Spain, London and Boston. Somebody finally has to say - you cannot act like that, you cannot keep on killing Palestinian children and people with white phosphorus, you cannot kill innocent people that are not even in your territory and are not threat to your security.


    Truth is none of us no what really happened. I took Israels side, because, I knew you all would be against them without having the facts, and someone has to stand up for them. Truthfully, we should all remain neutrael until we have the full story.
  6. Originally posted by Yogi:[..]

    Your ancestors almost exterminated native americans and I don't hear that any of them are killing "new" Americans because of paranoia caused by the deaths of their ancestors.


    Problemn solved. Most of my family didn't come to America before 1900. The only one I know of who did, was a French trapper who lived off the land, and married a Native American.

    You lose.

  7. I'm gonna get a tatoo too express my hatred of the left.
  8. My arguement for the Israelis.







    1. You KNOW the Israelis have a blockade.
    2. IF you had legitimate humanitarian resources, why try to run the blockade instead of docking in Israel?
    3. IF you know what happens when people try to run blockades, why do it anyway?
    4. IF you know they're going to board you, and IF you have legitimate humanitarian resources, WHY fight back?
    5. IF you know that SHOOTING someone that has a weapon for their own protection is going to bring holy hell upon you, WHY DO IT?
    6. Had they gone with the Israeli offer of assistance and had their items cleared legally, the situation wouldn't have escalated, and people wouldn't have died.
    7. They knew they weren't getting through that blockade. As soon as they said that they would, they had already made a political statement. To think otherwise would be naive.
    8. Did they have to attack the Israeli boarding party? No. They were going to search the ship for anything illegal, and if you have nothing to hide, why fight back?


    Check.
  9. Originally posted by wtshnnfb01:My arguement for the Israelis.







    1. You KNOW the Israelis have a blockade.
    2. IF you had legitimate humanitarian resources, why try to run the blockade instead of docking in Israel?
    3. IF you know what happens when people try to run blockades, why do it anyway?
    4. IF you know they're going to board you, and IF you have legitimate humanitarian resources, WHY fight back?
    5. IF you know that SHOOTING someone that has a weapon for their own protection is going to bring holy hell upon you, WHY DO IT?
    6. Had they gone with the Israeli offer of assistance and had their items cleared legally, the situation wouldn't have escalated, and people wouldn't have died.
    7. They knew they weren't getting through that blockade. As soon as they said that they would, they had already made a political statement. To think otherwise would be naive.
    8. Did they have to attack the Israeli boarding party? No. They were going to search the ship for anything illegal, and if you have nothing to hide, why fight back?


    Check.


    what happened i havnt been in this forum for a little while?


  11. Care to follow your own advice?


  12. The ships were 22 miles away from the territory that is under blockade.

    Israelis celebrating attack on Turkish Aid Ship - infront of Turkish embassy


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