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  1. Originally posted by LikeASong:http://conversations.nokia.com/2013/09/03/the-next-chapter-an-open-letter-from-steve-ballmer-and-stephen-elop/

    "twrist • 35 minutes ago −
    I've only ever owned Nokia phones and I fully intended to keep it that way forever. Now my hand has been forced.

    It does concern me a little that North Americans can't even pronounce Nokia correctly, let alone understand their ethos and what they represent for European technology users.    "

    Same here. Selling Nokia out to Microsoft marks the end of my 11 years relationship with Nokia. Although I will always say they've been the best phones around (both soft and hardware wise) but they've taken the wrong path, so... It was good while it lasted. Ciao!

    Maybe everything will be ok in the end. At least I hope so.

    BTW interesting fact. Just moments after the deal was made, price of Microsoft shares fell for 5% while Nokia's rose for 35%.
  2. Because Nokia is a dead brand. They are too far behind. I dont think they will ever recover.
  3. Windows Phone is only going to follow. I can't see Microsoft alone making it work.

  4. Nokia brand isn't dead, far from it. They still own the biggest number of patents in smartphone industry. Not to mention that they specialized in GPS technology over the past few years.

    Despite all the problems they still had the best, most sturdy hardware that didn't feel cheap even in the most cheap Lumia devices.

    They hold 2nd place in South America which is a huge market and they are rapidly growing in Asia. If they put their heads together and don't mess it up, I believe that they can succeed.
  5. Despite all the problems they still had the best, most sturdy hardware that didn't feel cheap even in the most cheap Lumia devices.


    They always have. But sturdy, reliable hardware ain't anything if it isn't backed up by a good, fluent software. And they have lacked that since they stuck with Symbian while the rest of the world moved forward to Android and OS. A shame.
  6. There was no problem with Symbian itself. In many ways it still does a lot better than most mobile operating systems today. Nokia just needed to develop it a lot quicker. If the 5800 or N97 launched with Belle and capacitive screens they would have just about been alrie I think. Would have bought them 2 years to merge with Meego. A shame either way. A big shame.
  7. Originally posted by Yogi:[..]

    Nokia brand isn't dead, far from it. They still own the biggest number of patents in smartphone industry. Not to mention that they specialized in GPS technology over the past few years.

    Despite all the problems they still had the best, most sturdy hardware that didn't feel cheap even in the most cheap Lumia devices.

    They hold 2nd place in South America which is a huge market and they are rapidly growing in Asia. If they put their heads together and don't mess it up, I believe that they can succeed.


    I know all of that, but I dont see them recovering and fighting on the level of Samsung or Apple.

    My last 3 phones were Nokia.

    N95
    N900
    Lumia 800

    I really love them all, especially the N900 was awesome at the time. But it was born dead, since support was dropped almost immediately. The Lumia phones are beautiful, the OS likewise, but really limited. SIP calls were possible on the N95, but not on the Lumia. Multitasking was fully supported on the N900, the 800 has none.

    Its very easy to develop for WP but there is just too many things you don't have access to.
  8. People today mostly buy Nokia because they want Nokia, not because they want windows Phone. I think the platform has no longevity. It may grow a little but I see no end game for it. There is premise there but Microsoft don't seem keen to work on it with any sense of urgency.
  9. Originally posted by germcevoy:People today mostly buy Nokia because they want Nokia, not because they want windows Phone. I think the platform has no longevity. It may grow a little but I see no end game for it. There is premise there but Microsoft don't seem keen to work on it with any sense of urgency.

    Agree. I also think that most of the people who buy a Nokia today, buy it because they have already owned a Nokia: I mean, I don't think they've gained many new users since some years ago, most of their users are users of old phones when Nokia ruled the mobile world.
  10. Originally posted by LikeASong:[..]

    Agree. I also think that most of the people who buy a Nokia today, buy it because they have already owned a Nokia: I mean, I don't think they've gained many new users since some years ago, most of their users are users of old phones when Nokia ruled the mobile world.

    I bought my Lumia 620 after two Android Samsung phones. Since I can't afford the most expensive models I was looking what could I get that wouldn't slow down over time and feel cheap.

    And I heard that Nokia and Microsoft have very specific philosophy about Lumia WP8 devices. OS works the same on cheapest and most expensive models. An it really is that way. My 620 works just like 920 or 720 and in the same time like the cheapest one - 520. It's so damn fluid.

    And I just like the way it looks.

    If I tried to buy an Android phone for the same money I can guarantee that OS wouldn't work the same way it does on Nexus 4 or Galaxy S4. And device itself would just feel cheap. Hell, I had S4 in my hand the other day and it really feels plasticky and cheap.

    I think that Lumias with WP8 are really great and beautiful packages. Yes, there are some problems, but nothing that would kill it for me.

    I use Skype, Viber, Gmail, Outlook and Facebook literally during the whole day and never had problem about any of those. Not to mention fantastic maps and GPS.

    After I bought my 620 people were regularly asking me what I was thinking when I bought it. But then I gave it to them to try it out and many of the fell in love with it.

    My girlfriend bought 520, one of my friends also. Another friend bought 620 and today my father got 720. Oh yeah, another friend also got 720.

    Yeah, I'm subjective but I really look forward to Windows Phone 8.1 and in a few months we will see what really means this Microsoft - Nokia merge.
  11. The 620 is probably the best all round Windows Phone to date. I will buy another as a second phone. I've tried to stick with Wimdows Phone on half a dozen occasions but each time come up with a show stopper that is most likely specific to me. There is still a market for premium Windows Phone devices to. The 8x I tried felt a million dollars and the higher resolution screen really does add an extra dimension. But until these little niggles are ironed out I just can't use it full time which is a real shame because android is very bland.

    The 620 with the lime rear cover is a bloody classic though.
  12. I had the Nokia 710 while my Nexus 4 was getting repaired for a week and I must say it was extremely impressive. Never stepped a foot wrong.
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