1. Originally posted by germcevoy:My 'stupid little man' comments were in reference to Leave Behind and was clearly a little light hearted. They wanted 12 singles to make up and album. In my opinion that is just the wrong way to make an album. Singles are often over produced and cheesy and putting 12 of those on one album made a terrible album in my opinion. Bonos comments referencing the new album to JT and AB could be just a little too much. He says in that article that they are just making music for the sake of it so why the need to compare it to their greatest 2 albums? That just sets the bar extremely high leading to added pressure on the bad and giving us massive expectations that I think the band will struggle to fulfill but .. . . . .that doesnt mean the cant.


    But did he ever compare ATYCLB or HTDAAB to AB or JT?
    I going to back the B-Man on this one!


  2. Even mentioning those albums sets a massive expectation on the album. I hope they can pull it off.
  3. Originally posted by BonoWe have what it takes, we have the songs, new rhythms and a guitar player who is not ready to re-enter earth's atmosphere until he's taken a slice of the moon![...]people don’t want another U2 album unless it is our best ever album. It has to be our most innovative, our most challenging … or what’s the point ?



    Originally posted by Bono"There’s only one reason for U2 to put an album out right now — it has to be a monster, a dragon, and this is. [...] It's filled with big tunes and it's driven by a guitar player who is sick of the sight of me shaking hands with dodgy politicians. The anger is unbelievable."




  4. 'the anger is unbelievable' omfg hahaha. One Step Closer, A Man And A Woman, Original. . . .
  5. Sceptics!
  6. In the end I don't feel a delay is good.
    It doesn't seem necessary when they already have 50 or 60 (!) songs!
    If that number is really true (I've learned to take the way Bono hypes new albums with a BIG pince of salt), then they are in fact many times more productive then they've ever ever been. In my perception none of the albums really have more then say 5 or 6, or maybe 10 'leftovers' that don't make it to the final twelve.
    Delay usually means 'overproduced' which means: smooth instead of raw, safe instead of daring, radiofriendly instead of transitional and exciting........ please don't "soften the edges" now, please don't let creativity and intuitivity smother in to much rationality



    (sorry if i sound to pessimistic, let's hope they are really on a big creative wave right now and make a 2cd with 22 new songs........... )
  7. Originally posted by u2joost:In the end I don't feel a delay is good.
    It doesn't seem necessary when they already have 50 or 60 (!) songs!
    If that number is really true (I've learned to take the way Bono hypes new albums with a BIG pince of salt), then they are in fact many times more productive then they've ever ever been. In my perception none of the albums really have more then say 5 or 6, or maybe 10 'leftovers' that don't make it to the final twelve.
    Delay usually means 'overproduced' which means: smooth instead of raw, safe instead of daring, radiofriendly instead of transitional and exciting........ please don't "soften the edges" now, please don't let creativity and intuitivity smother in to much rationality



    (sorry if i sound to pessimistic, let's hope they are really on a big creative wave right now and make a 2cd with 22 new songs........... )


    That's not entirely true, HTDAAB also had thirty+ songs. You can however put your question marks with what Bono means by 'songs'. It means they have fifty sets of lyrics and a melodies. Some would call that songs, others just pieces of music. It surely doesn't mean that they are fifty full songs which can be put on an album.
  8. Originally posted by u2joost:
    Delay usually means 'overproduced' which means: smooth instead of raw, safe instead of daring, radiofriendly instead of transitional and exciting........


    That's only one way to read a "Delay". It's also possible, that it's exactly the opposite - that they played it to some people who find it too polished.
    Maybe they fiddled out the mother of all songs all of a sudden and feel that it needs be on the record.


    It's all speculation so far - but to me, it seems pretty save to assume that, for whatever reason, they aren't 100% happy with the result of the recordings. Up to you to see this as a bad or good sign.
  9. ??? I don't go online for a day, and there are 10 more pages on this thread.

    well, too bad the news we got is bad news, with regards to the delay. I'm putting my money on March 2009 (feel sorry for the suckers on the 'time for a bet' thread).

    And agree that NLOTH could be a 3rd best album, surpassing JT/AB is ludicrous, it was a different age when they were released. Still think its going to be an evolution of Bomb. (which isn't a bad thing)

    The 50-60 song comment from Bono is interesting, does this mean U2 have this huge back catalogue of unreleased material, perhaps to put on compilation CDs in 20 years time? cue the 'The More Complete U2'
    Or does he mean 40 '4th of julys' and 20 proper songs?

    If they do have that much material, they should do a 'Zooropa' style release soon after the new album (two albums were rumoured), 4 1/2 years is too long to wait for albums, especially when they're not getting any younger.
  10. I think it was either The Saints Are Coming or Window In The Skies they bought out on January 1. Maybe that's what they'll do, and mean by "early 2009". That new music service by RED and possibly iTunes may well be the first to have it - in November, then physical purchase 01/01/09 - it sounds alright.

    U2 albums take forever to write and produce...ATYCLB was started six months after the release of Pop, so the time from HTDAAB - GTFO could well be similar. Overproduced to me means "terrible sound" like it's been recorded too loud and "terrible lyrics", such as "an intellectual tortoise". Under produced is something missing those qualities, much like a lot of music nowadays and remastered efforts, which I hope this new record is.

    Wouldn't a compilation full of unreleased stuff be something to behold. I don't expect it, though - look how long it took for them to release one Boy, four Joshua Tree and two War demos - which sucked anyway. When artists start getting towards the half-century mark, they start putting out demos, outtakes and whatever else, because they have to get them out there somehow.
  11. starting university this to me may be a bit of a blessing. At least i can sort out the money side of things without worrying about buy tour tickets and stuff. Still, I was getting exited.