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  1. I think it was either The Saints Are Coming or Window In The Skies they bought out on January 1. Maybe that's what they'll do, and mean by "early 2009". That new music service by RED and possibly iTunes may well be the first to have it - in November, then physical purchase 01/01/09 - it sounds alright.

    U2 albums take forever to write and produce...ATYCLB was started six months after the release of Pop, so the time from HTDAAB - GTFO could well be similar. Overproduced to me means "terrible sound" like it's been recorded too loud and "terrible lyrics", such as "an intellectual tortoise". Under produced is something missing those qualities, much like a lot of music nowadays and remastered efforts, which I hope this new record is.

    Wouldn't a compilation full of unreleased stuff be something to behold. I don't expect it, though - look how long it took for them to release one Boy, four Joshua Tree and two War demos - which sucked anyway. When artists start getting towards the half-century mark, they start putting out demos, outtakes and whatever else, because they have to get them out there somehow.
  2. starting university this to me may be a bit of a blessing. At least i can sort out the money side of things without worrying about buy tour tickets and stuff. Still, I was getting exited.
  3. Originally posted by WojBhoy:[..]


    He wasn't calling Bono a stupid little man, end of; he was referring to Bono's claim that he wanted ATYCLB to be an album of 12 singles, and the ideal album format is not built around 12 singles - such a thing is not feasible. One can have an album of 12 great tracks, but not all great tracks are singles .....


    It has been done at least one time that I know of - and with great success. A christian group called 'whiteheart' did it with the 1992 album 'tales of wonder' - all but 2 of the songs made the top ten on christian radio and the album sold very well...unfortunately, I dont think the album has 'stood the test of time'.......but it is possible....

    I am disappointented but not surprised with the delay of the new album....at least now whenit comes out I will have the money to get it.....
  4. Originally posted by Guenther:[..]

    It has been done at least one time that I know of - and with great success. A christian group called 'whiteheart' did it with the 1992 album 'tales of wonder' - all but 2 of the songs made the top ten on christian radio and the album sold very well...unfortunately, I dont think the album has 'stood the test of time'.......but it is possible....

    I am disappointented but not surprised with the delay of the new album....at least now whenit comes out I will have the money to get it.....


    Its christian music on christian radio, it doesn't count. And there is no wikipedia entry for it, so it can't be all that famous...


  5. Really? thirty+?
    can someone direct me to a list of those please?
  6. Around the time the release of ATYCLB, Bono said that they need at least 11 real good reasons to go on tour.

    That is a pretty good goal to have. Sometimes they've hit that very well (The Joshua Tree, Achtung Baby, HTDAAB) and sometimes missing the mark a bit (ATYCLB).

    If the delay is that they want to be sure that they are sure that they are sure - that they are sure that they got it right? There is not shame in that.

    Should they take the time and get it right or force the album out when they are unsure and not 100% convinced - like when they were forced to release Pop?

    Good news is, the new album could still come out in Jan or February and the tour STILL start in late March to April.

    Nothing horrible there.
  7. Originally posted by anstratdubh1979:

    .........Should they take the time and get it right or force the album out when they are unsure and not 100% convinced - like when they were forced to release Pop?...........




    I'm convinced that POP is as awesome as it is, because of the fact taht they didn't have time to polish and rework and polish again. In other words: don't fiddle to much with the songs, know when to stop.
  8. It's been said that things always change in the 11th hour, with U2. And that is true.

    Bono went in and recut the vocal to "A Sort Of Homecoming", literally as the tapes were to go to mastering. Yet, they put the tapes up, he nailed it, improved upon it, and the album was better for it.

    Achtung Baby is another example. Everyone from band, crew to producers have said that if that album came out, even a week earlier, it'd have been a different animal. Many mixes and ideas changed in the 11th hour.

    I understand REMY and agree that I hope that they don't OVER think it or OVER produce it. I do think that any 'problems' with HTDAAB were over-cooking some bits.

    Example?
    The guitars are music are much more razor sharp on "Native Son" than they are on "Vertigo". I'm not saying "Vertigo" is bad or week, I'm saying the guitars on "Native Son" are sharper, and in my view better. It goes back to what they said in interviews, that they were listening to their early influences and recapturing that spirit.

    That said, the Jacknife Lee 7" mix of Vertigo, is ALSO better (rawer, sharper, better mix) than the album version (Has a lyric difference or two also).

    So time used wisely and with inspiration = The Joshua Tree/Achtung Baby goodness. Let's hope it is in that vein that they are travelling and not watering anything down for 'radio'.
  9. Originally posted by anstratdubh1979:It's been said that things always change in the 11th hour, with U2. And that is true.

    Bono went in and recut the vocal to "A Sort Of Homecoming", literally as the tapes were to go to mastering. Yet, they put the tapes up, he nailed it, improved upon it, and the album was better for it.

    Achtung Baby is another example. Everyone from band, crew to producers have said that if that album came out, even a week earlier, it'd have been a different animal. Many mixes and ideas changed in the 11th hour.

    I understand REMY and agree that I hope that they don't OVER think it or OVER produce it. I do think that any 'problems' with HTDAAB were over-cooking some bits.

    Example?
    The guitars are music are much more razor sharp on "Native Son" than they are on "Vertigo". I'm not saying "Vertigo" is bad or week, I'm saying the guitars on "Native Son" are sharper, and in my view better. It goes back to what they said in interviews, that they were listening to their early influences and recapturing that spirit.

    That said, the Jacknife Lee 7" mix of Vertigo, is ALSO better (rawer, sharper, better mix) than the album version (Has a lyric difference or two also).

    So time used wisely and with inspiration = The Joshua Tree/Achtung Baby goodness. Let's hope it is in that vein that they are travelling and not watering anything down for 'radio'.


    exactly!
    thank you for this.... very well put!
  10. 50/60 songs
    I want them all lol...

    Probably half of those are weak...
  11. I must say that I am getting a little bored with the 'let's re-release all the old albums and cash in before our new LP comes out' CD's!!!
    Oasis are around with a superb new tune, new LP due and a World Tour shceduled, what a shock, U2 put back the release of the new CD until their tour finishes.....Um, conspiracy?
  12. About the anger on HTDAAB...they left it out and made them B-Sides..: Native Son, Xanax and Wine, Are You Gonna Wait Forever. These songs have anger in them.

    One thing in this all is certain though: Bono is saying a lot of things, even too much for himself to udnerstand, I think.
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