1. Originally posted by thefly07:i thought one of the parts of being a fan of a band was supporting them, sure I might be thrown into the "obsessive" crowd when it comes to U2, and I'm not sorry about that, but I feel like sometimes on here certain people are just really saying things that serve no other purpose than to sound like condescending assholes and to just say that a certain song is shite or whatever. Personally, I think U2 is still at the top of their game and always have been. I think they've gotten better with every album. I think this is kind of getting off topic but I just wanted to put that out there


    Being a fan of the band for me doesn't mean that I have to blindly enjoy everything that has the label U2. I've followed this band for about 20 years now, have seen them live multiple times, cheered for them and spent a fortune on official releases, concert tickets, travelling costs, taping equipment and servers that hosted the fan forums I managed over the years.
    So, if I now say, I don't like song x or album y or the non musical Bono, does that make me less of a fan???
  2. Still at the top of their game? Thats nuts. Nobody's writing the boys off. Just judging my thought on the last 2 albums asell as Bono's direction with his other activities I can't see them keeping that spark inside me lit. I think they have just found that sweet spot where they can put put an album, sell 12m, tour it for a while then take it easy. I cant see where their personal motovation will come from to do something spwecial if they know that anything they put out will rake in the $.
  3. Jeese i'd love them to deliver though. It's been a lengthy affair and I dnt yet want to trade them in for a newer, younger model.
  4. Originally posted by germcevoy:Still at the top of their game? Thats nuts. Nobody's writing the boys off. Just judging my thought on the last 2 albums asell as Bono's direction with his other activities I can't see them keeping that spark inside me lit. I think they have just found that sweet spot where they can put put an album, sell 12m, tour it for a while then take it easy. I cant see where their personal motovation will come from to do something spwecial if they know that anything they put out will rake in the $.


    Exactly, U2 is more commercial than ever. Untill Joshua/Zoo, they had to proove themselves, they don't have to now. I'm a fan since 1999, loved ATYCLB, but when looking back to it, I admit it wasn't their best by far. From all U2 music, I mostly listen to their early stuff from 1980 till 1992. Doesn't say I ignore Vertigo or Elevation or that I don't like it, but I'm afraid we'll never see the U2 again from 1992 or earlier.

  5. Originally posted by dieder:[..]

    I know who you are talking about... that man was not 'good' in WWII right? The reviews were pretty good though....


    Yep, he often performed for Germans in theaters and such...although that's another topic.
  6. Originally posted by thefly07:i thought one of the parts of being a fan of a band was supporting them, sure I might be thrown into the "obsessive" crowd when it comes to U2, and I'm not sorry about that, but I feel like sometimes on here certain people are just really saying things that serve no other purpose than to sound like condescending assholes and to just say that a certain song is shite or whatever. Personally, I think U2 is still at the top of their game and always have been. I think they've gotten better with every album. I think this is kind of getting off topic but I just wanted to put that out there


    Don't agree with you but support your right to say it! I think it's understood that all of us here are die-hard fans and that we're allowed to be critical from time to time. We may overplay our bitching and moaning but it's an indicator of how obsessive we are. We want U2 to be the best that they can be. For the record, late 80's, early 90's was the high spot for me.
  7. as I said, criticism is ok by all means, but it's just too much from time to time, in my opinion. saying that their really good times are over is a bit too much of a judgement, you simply can't state that as fact. you don't know what's about to come, you don't know how u2 really thinks about making a new album. a bit of faith in them every now and then wouldn't hurt and it's not like they've been crap the last 8 years, why does every album have to be groundbreaking? that's a bit too much to ask of them, no one's at the top of their game 24/7 all of their lives
  8. Originally posted by flowerchild:as I said, criticism is ok by all means, but it's just too much from time to time, in my opinion. saying that their really good times are over is a bit too much of a judgement, you simply can't state that as fact. you don't know what's about to come, you don't know how u2 really thinks about making a new album. a bit of faith in them every now and then wouldn't hurt and it's not like they've been crap the last 8 years, why does every album have to be groundbreaking? that's a bit too much to ask of them, no one's at the top of their game 24/7 all of their lives


    Good points there.

    However, I also think it's understood that people are stating opinion and not stating fact. There's no need for everyone to end a sentence with "IMO". It should be taken verbatim that whatever comes out is someone sharing their "views". If I say JT is better than AB - it's my preference and I shouldn't have to preface it by saing "IMO".
  9. Originally posted by yeah:[..]

    Being a fan of the band for me doesn't mean that I have to blindly enjoy everything that has the label U2. I've followed this band for about 20 years now, have seen them live multiple times, cheered for them and spent a fortune on official releases, concert tickets, travelling costs, taping equipment and servers that hosted the fan forums I managed over the years.
    So, if I now say, I don't like song x or album y or the non musical Bono, does that make me less of a fan???


    I completely agree about that and should have included that. I don't blindly enjoy everything they do either, but overall I think they're damn near perfect. I'm not trying to judge anyones "fanness" because it's not my place and its a personal and different thing for each of us. I guess I had just gotten kinda frustrated with what I saw as a lot of negativity
  10. Originally posted by aussiemofo:[..]

    Don't agree with you but support your right to say it! I think it's understood that all of us here are die-hard fans and that we're allowed to be critical from time to time. We may overplay our bitching and moaning but it's an indicator of how obsessive we are. We want U2 to be the best that they can be. For the record, late 80's, early 90's was the high spot for me.


    i know, i do criticize them as a fan. U2 has to earn our trust more than the trust of new fans, I remember grilling Atomic Bomb when it came out, to make sure it was as good as they said. Overall I agree. So I do criticize them and believe they have a lot to prove and live up to, but i guess i'm giving them the benefit of the doubt. like I said, the negativity just seemed to be a little rampant sometimes, could just be me though. I'm not calling anyone less of a fan!! *peace sign*
  11. Originally posted by aussiemofo:[..]

    Good points there.

    However, I also think it's understood that people are stating opinion and not stating fact. There's no need for everyone to end a sentence with "IMO". It should be taken verbatim that whatever comes out is someone sharing their "views". If I say JT is better than AB - it's my preference and I shouldn't have to preface it by saing "IMO".


    Amen. If I say that U2 didn't release anything great in the last 10 years, that's my opinion, no fact. I'm not trying to persuade someone that I'm right and they're wrong. Would be boring if everyone enjoyed the same songs, shared the same lyrics interpretation, etc...