1. Originally posted by RUMMY:[..]
    You are a very patient/tolerant individual., Remy.

    Back on topic: I'm quite jealous of you attending these Euro shows...it seems each show get at least two of Map, Bliss, PiB, or SS.
    None of the above appeared in Toronto.
    I was so happy with Bliss, its currently my favourite Muse track
  2. I've seen them twice now and got Plug In Baby and New Born at my first show. Was really hoping for the other three I mentioned in my previous post and Bliss would have been great to complete what I call the Origin of Symmetry trifecta. I did get Citizen Erased, however, so I shouldn't complain too much.
  3. Nice! Really like their stage, indoor Claw.
  4. Originally posted by RUMMY:You are a very patient/tolerant individual., Remy.

    Back on topic: I'm quite jealous of you attending these Euro shows...it seems each show get at least two of Map, Bliss, PiB, or SS.
    None of the above appeared in Toronto.


    Yes, the European setlists have improved slightly over the quite lame North American leg.

    Now let's hope someone has done some crappy recordings of these shows that we can enjoy with our untrained ears
  5. Originally posted by RUMMY:[..]

    .it seems each show get at least two of Map, Bliss, PiB, or SS.
    None of the above appeared in Toronto.

    I haven't been paying attention to this tour, but it is criminal that they are leaving ANY of those songs out.

    Guess we know how some of the original U2 fans felt when ZooTV started
  6. Originally posted by Andrew_C:[..]

    I haven't been paying attention to this tour, but it is criminal that they are leaving ANY of those songs out.

    Guess we know how some of the original U2 fans felt when ZooTV started
    Good point, although their best&most well known songs to date (Streets, Bad, Pride, New Year's Day, WOWY) etc were still regulars during Zoo TV. Muse have only kept their most known songs, but not the best. Undisclosed Desires or Madness as staples instead of Plug In Baby, Stockholm Syndrome or Map Of The Problematique is criminal as you said.
  7. Originally posted by JulienLossless:i'm not against people starting taping, i'm just saying that before releasing a recording just for the hell of it you have to master the trade which means do it far and beyond and keep that recordings out of the general population as long as you don't manage to make a good one. taping a concert a good way isn't easy, and doing it from first row in GA is obviously not the way to do so ...

    releasing a crappy recording (yes, remy's i&e recordings are crappy) only deters people with better recording to upload them, because what would be the point ? the more spread would be the crappiest one.


    You are a dying breed good sir. Stay within your right little circle of taper friends. I don't think the world will stop spinning when you and your lot keep your non crappy recordings out of circulation. You are more irrelevant now than ever with people seeking out the immediate hit of live streams. This is where it's at now and you just can't compete with it any longer. Enjoy your nights by the fire with your own taped shows. I hope itakes you all warm and fuzzy inside. The rest of us don't care.

    Many thanks for all you have brought to the table over the years but I'd surely rather do without it have you discourage anyone else trying to get into the game.

    Lighten up.
  8. friends of u2, it's easy to see and to understand, right a Claw indoor...........
  9. Originally posted by Andrew_C:[..]

    I haven't been paying attention to this tour, but it is criminal that they are leaving ANY of those songs out.

    Guess we know how some of the original U2 fans felt when ZooTV started
    Well, we had Plug in Baby on wednesday. Just like U2, they rotate the songs. And hé, taste is personal.
  10. True. I like the song but couldn't care less if they didn't play Plug in Baby
  11. Originally posted by LikeASong:[..]
    Good point, although their best&most well known songs to date (Streets, Bad, Pride, New Year's Day, WOWY) etc were still regulars during Zoo TV. Muse have only kept their most known songs, but not the best. Undisclosed Desires or Madness as staples instead of Plug In Baby, Stockholm Syndrome or Map Of The Problematique is criminal as you said.
    I suppose at the start of the ZooTV tour (the first two legs, anyway) there was nothing played from Boy, Oct, or War. NYD eventually became a staple, SBS was rotated with Bad for a while, and IWF made a couple of appearances - but I think that was about it. If you were a fan of U2 starting in 1980, you might of been a bit miffed. Fortunately, Achtung Baby grew into the juggernaut that it did and we only look fondly on those times now - and so we should!

    I don't think Muse has had the "second coming" like U2 had and I don't think they are quite in the position to get rid of their early hits. Maybe they're trying but they're definitely not there yet.