Football / Soccer topic

Originally posted by LikeASong:Spanish league is probably the best, because the best players are here, the best teams play here and the best goals are scored here. Otherwise I like the English league a lot, the matches are always very hard-fought, I like watching them

Originally posted by MWSAH:[..]

But English teams enjoyed lare successes last years. Man.Utd, Arsenal, Chelsea and Liverpool all reached the CL-final in the last decade. From Spain, it's only Barca and Real. Anyway, I think it's a tie between the two. I prefer English football but the Primera Division is always something special.

Originally posted by LikeASong:Yes, that's the main problem with the Spanish league, Barcelona and Real Madrid are the biggest teams and with a big difference. After them there are a big bunch of smaller teams (Valencia, Sevilla, Villareal, Mallorca, Atletico de Madrid......) that are always hanging around but rarely end up succeeding Anyway, the problem is more or less the same in the English, French, Italian, etc leagues, there are always 2-6 big teams that win everything.


PS. Josh, call me Sergio please!

Originally posted by MWSAH:[..]

And in Holland they all suck lol

Originally posted by LikeASong:[..]

When I was younger (so much younger than today, as Mr. Lennon would say... LOL), I remember that AJAX was great, they was all over Europe (UEFA and Champions League)and so. What happened to them?

Originally posted by MWSAH:[..]

Sold their top players (Van der Vaart (Real), Sneijder (Inter), Heitinga (Everton), De Jong (Man.City), Maxwell (Barca), Zlatan (Barca), Chivu (Inter), Huntelaar (AC Milan) for example all played for Ajax) and instead they bought old players like Gabri, Oleguer and Rommedahl. They should focus on good scouting and their own youth. That was Ajax strenght, they're foolish now.

PSV was the most succesfull club in the last decade with reaching the semifinals in the CL. And Feyenoord won the UEFA Cup back in 2002. But there isn't that much money to be spend overall.

Originally posted by iTim:[..]

Could argue that Ajax's downfall started earlier than that. They were a true force in European football but back end of the 90's they lost a lot of talented players (Kluivert, Davids, Overmars, both De Boers, Van Der Sar, Rijkaard, Seedorf and probably more that I can't recall now. Since then it's been very hit and miss with no real sustainable team.

Yes, Ajax have probably one of the best youth setups in the world but when clubs come knocking with big money, a team in Ajax's position has little chance of persuading a big player to stay. The players that emerge through the talent pool into the Ajax first team have much better prospects elsewhere. If Ajax were as good as they were in the 80's/early 90's then they'd stand a much better chance of holding on to players.

It's a shame to see once giants in the game fall and it's even more of a shame to see new 'giants' emerge through the investment of incomprehensible sums of money.

Originally posted by LikeASong:Torres? No way. He was born and raised as a fanatic of Atletico de Madrid. And the Atletico people hate both Real Madrid and Barça...... it won't happen at all. I hope.