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  1. Seeing this right now on the news, what is the goalie meant to do? Let the fan hit him? If ur stupid enough to run on the field and assult a player then u deserve a kick up the arse.
  2. Yep, the point is that the rules say the referee needs to give the card. Goalie wont be punished though, think they will destroy the red card. Ajax might be out of the cup as the punishment. Sadly as Ajax fan, i cant disagree when they are kicked out.

    Thanks to that 19yr old drunken trash, who abused the area close to the field for disabled persons to make a complete dickhead out of himself. Should be prosecuted for assault.
  3. odd situation
    it should be (for the rules) 0 - 3 for Az for the invasion, but i guess it comes if the player can't go on with the match, so a high fine more likely.
    and at the same time 3 - 0 for Ajax for Az leaving the field ... 3 - 3 in the end hehe
    but Az should be disqualified for one year from the competition again for leaving the field, like happened to AC Milan years ago which abandoned during a champions cup (it was not Champions League yet if i remember well) match against Olympique Marseille .. but this is a UEFA rule, so don't know regarding the Dutch federation.
  4. like the commentator said: "wat een idiot" .. that says it all

    that idiot was clearly attacking the gk, look how he attempted to jump into him full force. GK has every right to defend himself. Rules have the red card and all, but I guess, like others have said before, the red card will be taken back and Ajax will be punished 0:3 for this game. Security is incredibly poor when someone like that can run onto the field like that. You can be glad nothing more serious happened to the GK I hate that.
    The reaction of the Verbeek manager is one I've not seen before. Drama. But understandable.

    No good day for Dutch football
    adding to that, our Dutch star Huntelaar insulted the line referee twice within just a few seconds last night so he got the yellow-red card... which broke our neck and made us lose like idiots.
  5. I think that GK could probably have taken it a little bit easier. He could've just tackled him to the ground easily. Football player in excellent shape vs Drunk person can only end one way. His reaction is understandable though.
  6. Originally posted by Mr_Trek:I think that GK could probably have taken it a little bit easier. He could've just tackled him to the ground easily. Football player in excellent shape vs Drunk person can only end one way. His reaction is understandable though.


    +1 .. he was already on the ground
  7. Yeah, he could've just held him to the ground.
  8. Regardless of whether he was being attacked or not it's not his job to reprimand pitch invaders. He should have just pushed him to the ground and left it for the stewards. Kicking seven shades of you know what through him was asking for a red card for violent conduct. Defend yourself then get back to the task at hand, don't try and make yourself look big in front of 50,000 people. Deserved red card, deserves three match ban and warning for future conduct and that's it. In the England it's not possible to overturn a red card because the referees decision is final. I doubt Ajax will be kicked out of the competition in all honesty, probably fined for failure to control their fans. Goalkeeper's actions will have no impact on the outcome because he's been punished. The referee's decision would've been to forfeit the game in Alkmaar's? favour if he had deemed it not safe, but he didn't.

    Originally posted by bartajax:according to the FIFA (Hey Fifa where do we know them from) rules the ref should give a red card to the GK because he uses violence on the field, a really stupid rule imo.


    Violence is not acceptable, particularly from a sportsperson who may be a role model to younger players. The fan will get his punishment and he took the beating.



    It's a football match not a prison. I'd say the problem is alcohol at football matches not security.



    Reminds me of the childish reaction from Lille in the Champions League a few years ago.
  9. I completely agree with Verbeek to step of the field, its time the players, trainers and clubs are going to do something against the ones who destroy the game; UEFA and Fifa.
    And the reason why that guy could go so easily on the field is because straight behind the goal of Estaban there is a big platform for disabled people so that they can see the game in the stadium too, but dont ask me what the stewards are doing. How can someone could go so easily on the field
  10. about security i think lot of countries, if not all, should learn from England, thinking what they did and where they were at years ago
  11. Originally posted by iTim:

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    It's a football match not a prison. I'd say the problem is alcohol at football matches not security.


    you don't need to build up a prison-like something to keep (drunk) people from running on the field. it's easily done with a ditch (word?) between visitors and field. works fine everywhere. why not in Amsterdam? next time someone gets seriously injured on the field. who excuses the poor attacker then?

    and I've seen so many sober "fans" at football games who got verbally aggressive without alcohol. that cannot be the one reason.

    edit: I didn't see your last comment before I posted, Bart. So the man came from the disabled area in front of the visitor area, right? well, then it pretty much is on account of the security staff that they let him run onto the field.
  12. I dont know if its possible to secure the stadiums so that it is impossible to go on the field, even at the WC final a idiot could go in the field.


    Rumors now are that that guy was using drunk and under influence of drugs and he already wasnt allowed to go in the stadium so once again I ask HOW THE FUCK DOES SOMEONE GETS IN THE STADIUM AND ON THE FIELD
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