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  1. Originally posted by bartajax:Nahh Messi only proved himself at Barca, it would be interesting to see how he will play in England or Italy for example. And at Barca everything was/is build around him.
    Until now his peformances at the national team also weren't that good.

    I'm not a fan of Ronaldo at all, but at least he had proven himself at United too. Don't get me wrong, Messi is a great player but I wouldn't call him the best of all time, probably not even in the top 3.

    And for me (and probaly most of us here) it's hard to judge who is the best of all time since I haven't seen Pele, Cruijff, Maradona, Best, Beckenbauer etc etc etc. If you ask me the best players who I have seen play live (On television ofcourse ) I would say Zidane, Ronaldinho, Ronaldo (Brazilian), Zlatan, Messi and Ronaldo.


    How many players have the same chance like Messi and didn t achieved what Messi did.

    It is a long discussion but there are some that can t get in on the discssuin ... sorry Zlatan , Ronaldinho ... I love the way they play/ played but is another level

    Ronaldo , Cristiano and Zidane are from this last era and everything they did Messi surpasses them. Except Ronaldo ´s goals in the WC

    Maradona , Pele and Messi are at the same step . I think Messi did a lot more than this guys excepting a WC ( he won a sub 20 WC) . This is his outstanding debt ...but if we talk about titles in a team or personal awards and goals ...Messi is far from Maradona and Pele
    Anyway is almost impossilbe compare players from differents eras... even Di stefano is very valued for old people ( except Ronnie )
  2. Originally posted by clover68:[image]

    hehehe

    King Eric was/is really insane, in all the meanings, i really loved him .. watching him playing you could expect everything .. he was able to do everything .. in every sense .. ..fantastic!

    ahead of Zidane yes but Le Roi Platini is the best from France, although he's a prick and i agree Bart

    maybe the weakest part of Eric was on his national team

    I like him very much but there were a lot of excellent players like him

    Platini and Zidane were better and the balance gives Zidane advantage because he a won WC


  3. saying it in this way even Pasculli is better than Messi


  4. i preferred Puskas .. and much better Meazza
  6. Soccer Aid returns tonight.

    England:
    The Celebrities: Robbie Williams (Captain and Assistant Manager), Bradley Walsh (Coach), Matt Smith, Stephen Moyer, Jack Whitehall, Mark Owen, Olly Murs, Paddy McGuinness, Jonathan Wilkes, Jamie Theakston, Ben Shephard, John Bishop, Marvin Humes.

    The Legends: Sam Allardyce (Manager), Peter Reid (Coach), Teddy Sheringham, David Seaman, Jamie Carragher, Jamie Redknapp

    Rest of the World:
    The Celebrities: Michael Sheen (Captain), Gordon Ramsay, Adam Richman, James McAvoy, Patrick Kielty, Nicky Byrne, Santiago Cabrera, Jeremy Renner.

    The Legends: José Mourinho (Manager), Jaap Stam, Edwin van der Sar, Alessandro Del Piero, Edgar Davids.

    Hoping to see Jaap Stam take some more players out like he did last year
  7. Too bad he is in the same squad as Mourinho
  8. New tactics from Mourinho

  9. Can LVG sign Stam to replace Vidic?
  11. In other news. Kaka left Milan and will play for Orlando. Another big player who will play in the USA next season.

    Tim are you happy with Shaw and Herrera? Probably sad that Buttner left, right ?
  12. Yeah, I'm happy. Good to see business done early this season. Still need a few more transfers to be made, both in and out, but it's positive progress so far.
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