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  1. Bayern? Without Robben and Ribery I don't think they will get through agains Barca, but with Pep you never know.
  2. I like Buffon too. Anyway i think Real will win over Juve

    and it s very hard to know what will happen between Bayern and Barca
  3. BECAUSE of Pep

  4. Well said, my friend. The best player I've ever seen, and I'm very lucky to be able to witness his magic in every game and tournament the great Zizou was part of.
  5. Originally posted by cesar_garza01:[..]

    Well said, my friend. The best player I've ever seen, and I'm very lucky to be able to witness his magic in every game and tournament the great Zizou was part of.
    mmm you both forget a little alien that made the new history of football
  6. Messi?
  8. LOL. What can I say? I watched Zizou since I was a kid, he left a big impression on me, and for me, he'll be the best player ever.
  9. hahha no problem ...we have discussed a lot of times with Sergio ..he loves Zizou ..he was great without doubts ... but i can t belive that young people like you (both) that sure didn t see Maradona ( neither Pele , Di stefano , etc) dont rate Messi like he deserve .
    The football history divided in after and before Messi . Before Messi all records were split in many differents players ( record from 1950 to now) and after Messi , he has all the records . I watch ( play/love ) football for many years and i didn t expect to see a player like him.
  10. True, but Zizou made all the other players play better. Messi shattered individual records, but not until the last World Cup I've seen him improving the rest of his team. I did have the chance to watch Maradona a little bit.
  11. Originally posted by cesar_garza01:True, but Zizou made all the other players play better. Messi shattered individual records, but not until the last World Cup I've seen him improving the rest of his team. I did have the chance to watch Maradona a little bit.
    We didn t see the best of Maradona( you are younger than me ) . Messi for older people is not that fantastic . But is ok . Always is there the discussion about Maradona, Pele , etc .
    Anyway i think Messi was part of the best team in history football too and he was the best player but he did ( and does ) a lot of assists nad passes too . Of course i respect your opinion and they are/were different kind of players .( i love Messi and when some talk like this start i can t stop )
  12. hahaha, it's ok Pato, of course I respect your opinion too. I'm sure that if we go to the cold hard facts in terms of statistics, goals, and the competition he had, Messi will be the best ever, but Zidane left us so many feats and memories in the most important games, and that's what (unfair or not) is remembered in the long term.
    I tell you this: I think that the legends from the romantic era (Di Stefano, Pele, etc.) didn't have this incredibly tough competition. The game became incredibly physical nowadays, who knows how well these players would do today, don't you agree?
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