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  1. Originally posted by patou2:[..]


    Yes, that row is a torture ... and some of that finals we lost vs Brazil

    It seems you know a lot about football

    Anyway i think the obligation of Argentina is reaching the finals ( and if we could win better ) Less than that is fail . There are few teams with that kind of " obligation" . Maybe Brazil, Italy and Germany


    this one was like YEEEAAAAAHHHHHHHHH
  2. I thought that !

    i saw that pic ...poor Messi he can t have a rest neither a minute

    ahhh and thanks for remenbering me that
  3. Sorry, I wasn't trying to demerit that. We kind of have the same cups: 2 Sub-17's, 1 3rd place in Sub-20 and 1 gold medal.
  4. Originally posted by patou2:I wasn t so nervous as i was vs Colombia because Argentina must reach the finals of this cup so , that match was hard and if we would lose it would be catastrophic .Because we was on CF . I m sure that was for Colombia and Brazil was a disaster. Both are teams that have to go forward on that cup. Colombia was very luck ( like Argentina) to play vs Argentina . So reaching the final was ok ( of course i would liek to win but is football - in fact we didn t lose - ) Even Pekerman ( Colombia s manager) is disputed after losing vs Argentina , and he is the same manager that gave the best performance of Colombia in a WC 11 months ago !!!

    The problem is now . Here there are a completely madness ...about everything is bad ..Messi, Martino , Higuain ...they are all losers ...i think this could happen in Brazil too ...but here there are a lot of people who hesitate about Messi ( yes , it s true ..unbelievable ...) . I m proud about the team, about the way they play ... I love Messi and the others players have to stay in the team ... Here everybody are managers ... so everybody ( i tell you even an old woman with 80 years old who never have played football ) say that Martino was wrong about this and that .... and everybody says that Messi dont like the national team and that he played bad and a lot of stupid things like this . Like the WC Messi was picked as the best player on the cup. And he was . The problem is that he not shine like starts ina summer night like he always does in Barcelona and he not scored goals leaving behind 5 rivals players ...the people here want Messi do this every minute of the match
    Kind of like here with setlists: everyone here has one better than the actual one.
  6. my thoughts exactly when I was reading that

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    Reaching the final is great for smaller teams, but when you're already used to reach the final and keep on losing it over and over again is really frustrating -objectively it's still great off course, but subjectively there's that pain in the chest that tells you that it sucks anyway-
  7. I think setlists are very subjective ..but noone can say that Messi is not good ...you can say i prefer Pele , Di Stefano or Maradona or Cau. Blanco (;) ) even more you can say you dont like the way he plays but you can t say that he is not good

    Many people say that he don t feel the National shirt ( do yuo understand what i m trying to say with it ? ) and he choose to play for Arg. He copuld play for Spain and he said not. He played O.Games that he could choose not to go and he could be in the best beach of the world and he is playing right now and training a lot for Argentina ..Come on !!!
    I think you noticed that i am angry with a lot of people , arent you ?
  8. Originally posted by patou2:I think setlists are very subjective ..but noone can say that Messi is not good ...you can say i prefer Pele , Di Stefano or Maradona or Cau. Blanco (;) ) even more you can say you dont like the way he plays but you can t say that he is not good

    Many people say that he don t feel the National shirt ( do yuo understand what i m trying to say with it ? ) and he choose to play for Arg. He copuld play for Spain and he said not. He played O.Games that he could choose not to go and he could be in the best beach of the world and he is playing right now and training a lot for Argentina ..Come on !!!
    I think you noticed that i am angry with a lot of people , arent you ?
    Yes, you hear ridiculous things now with social media. And it's the same people that climbed the hype train of calling him "martian" "out of this world" just a few months back in the Champions League games.
  9. (which he is, but my point was that some people just repeat what they hear)
  10. I understand what you are saying and agree 100% . Even when he played a good cup ( he was the best player like in WC) but some people want more ( i think they don t know what thwy want)

    Here is the same and many times they have a lot of time to speak on sports channels and they said things because they have to do some "noise" ... and many people get that
  11. Could any who knows about football be unhappy with Messi in your fav team ?
  12. It's just frustration roided out with social media until it becomes mass hysteria and then any objective/dissonant voice gets drowned in the middle of it.
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