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  1. Then why do Man City, Chelsea, PSG, Zenit, Shaktar Donetsk etc. become more and more succesfull in Europe while Liverpool and Milan are sliding off...?
    I've got the utmost respect for those last two teams, but the reality is they've lost their place to the clubs above.

    Furthermore teams like Chelsea, City, United and Arsenal should be completely ashamed how they ended up after a team like Leicester instead of being cocky and arranging that in the future they've got the CL tickets and not a team that did excellent with a way smaller budget.
    They should be able to overrun the champions of Belgium, Netherlands, Scotland etc instead of being afraid of losing and only willing to play Barcelona, Real Madrid, Bayern, Dortmund...
  2. You have to earn your place at the top table I'm afraid. Manchester United are nowhere near the level of Real Madrid and Barcelona. They were embarrassing in the Champions League last year and dismal domestically. Having a good European history doesn't entitle them to European Football each year. If the current crop of players aren't good enough, then that's tough. Leicester won the Premier League against all the odds and fully deserve a shot at taking on the rest of Europe. Good luck to them.
  3. You're right, Tim, but situations like ManU last year had lead to these measures.
    Because ManU missed the CL, they want more tickets for the "big" countries.
    Also, there's aparantly a rule where the clubs with more "tradition" get the ticket over a newcomer. For example, if Leicester becomes 4th and ManU 5th it'll be possible the UEFA gives the ticket to ManU anyway. How pathetic and sad is that...
    Anyway, nothing you can do about it.
  4. Originally posted by BelgianBono:You're right, Tim, but situations like ManU last year had lead to these measures.
    Because ManU missed the CL, they want more tickets for the "big" countries.
    Also, there's aparantly a rule where the clubs with more "tradition" get the ticket over a newcomer. For example, if Leicester becomes 4th and ManU 5th it'll be possible the UEFA gives the ticket to ManU anyway. How pathetic and sad is that...
    Anyway, nothing you can do about it.
    That last thing is not true. That only impacts the coefficient ranking, so if ManU & Leicester qualify for the CL, ManU might be in the pot A for the draw as they have a bigger history.
  5. I'm copying directly from our national football association...
  6. from the uefa site

    Changes

    -The UEFA Europa League winners will automatically qualify for the UEFA Champions League group stage (currently they can potentially take part in a play-off round).

    -The top four clubs from the four top-ranked national associations will now qualify automatically for the group stage of the UEFA Champions League.

    -The full details of the access list for both competitions will be finalised by the end of the year.

    -A new system for the club coefficients: clubs will be judged on their own records (deletion of the country share for individual club coefficient unless that coefficient is lower than 20% of the association's coefficient).

    -Historical success in the competition will also be acknowledged in coefficient calculation (points for previous European titles with a weighted system for UEFA Champions League and UEFA Europa League titles)

    -Financial distribution to clubs will be increased significantly for both competitions.

    -A new four-pillar financial distribution system (starting fee, performance in the competition, individual club coefficient and market pool) will see sporting performances better rewarded, while market pool share will decrease.
  8. Barcelona lost in Camp Nou against Alavés, that just returned to 1st Division. The beginning of a disappointing season?
  9. No. Stupid mistake by the coach. Underestimating your opponent and putting more than half of your usual starting line-up on the bench

    Can't believe he actually did that.

  10. No, it only impacts the coefficient calculation, as you can see in the post after you. It doesn't have any impact on who qualifies from a country.
  11. I see. They'll miss those 3 points at the end of the season.
  12. Originally posted by Remy:[..]
    No. Stupid mistake by the coach. Underestimating your opponent and putting more than half of your usual starting line-up on the bench

    Can't believe he actually did that.
    It was a logical risk ... they never thought they ha a chance to lose

    Anyway vs Celtic ...did you watch it ??
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