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  2. Today (2018-08-28) the Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung publishes a little essay by Bono:




    Nice guys don't play Rock 'N Roll…
  3. EU FLAG DAY...
  5. I think Bono lost touch a bit with reality, too much helicopter rides maybe. There's no European I know that is proud to be a European and will feel anything seeing the EU flag. But maybe thats me
  6. Originally posted by Remy:I think Bono lost touch a bit with reality, too much helicopter rides maybe. There's no European I know that is proud to be a European and will feel anything seeing the EU flag. But maybe thats me
    I'm with you.
  7. Originally posted by Remy:I think Bono lost touch a bit with reality, too much helicopter rides maybe. There's no European I know that is proud to be a European and will feel anything seeing the EU flag. But maybe thats me

    Yeah waving the European flag will likely achieve more neutral reactions than anything else with some people who don’t look favourably at the EU, perhaps more the political side, being put off by it.
  8. Originally posted by Remy:I think Bono lost touch a bit with reality, too much helicopter rides maybe. There's no European I know that is proud to be a European and will feel anything seeing the EU flag. But maybe thats me


    Bono speaks of a man that wasn’t touched by the hard economic recession in Ireland in the last 10 years. The EU bailed out their own European banks and wanted to ensure that they were protected before anything else. We’ve been lumped with a national debt that will take generations to get under control. Some of it our own doing but big EU corporations were also implicit. So while being part of the EU obviously benefits smaller countries, they’ve no alligence to them when things go wrong. It wasn’t we were all in it together, just sort you’re own mess out.

    If this flag display will be the big change for the tour, then I won’t be tuning in too often.
  9. He’s preaching, like his definition of America, an idea.

    Where’s the anger? Might have been muffled under the bubbly going ‘pop’.
  10. Originally posted by Remy:I think Bono lost touch a bit with reality, too much helicopter rides maybe. There's no European I know that is proud to be a European and will feel anything seeing the EU flag. But maybe thats me


    I hear you; the EU is certainly not perfect, its treatment of Greece has been appalling, it doesn't manage to take a meaningful stand on the immigration crisis, and so on. But I am proud to be a EU citizen, for exactly the reasons Bono states. A lot more should be done: for a fairer EU, that much more strongly protects the environment, that can be tough with greedy banks and corporations, and so on. But then, let's put pressure on our politicians to make the EU better. The moment the EU breaks up, or is further weakened, it's a world dominated by Putin, Trump, China. I find the EU, with all its defects, and incomparably better alternative.
  11. Originally posted by Remy:I think Bono lost touch a bit with reality, too much helicopter rides maybe. There's no European I know that is proud to be a European and will feel anything seeing the EU flag. But maybe thats me
    You certainly don't speak for me on this issue, proud European here
    The EU is far from perfect but there is no reasonable alternative to it.
  12. Another very proud European here. Bono's letter is a very good manifesto and why we should continue the EU evolution process.
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