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  1. Originally posted by dylbagz:I don't care what the US does, look where helping other countries has gotten them in the past. Done such wonderful things for their country!

    It just makes me wild that we can't even get things right in our own country, yet we're giving all this attention to refugees, asylum seekers and people 10000km away, while aboriginals live like they do in OUR country. Get shit right here before you worry about anywhere else.


    Do people in Australia die of diarrhea? Do they have access to clean drinking water? Do children not attend school because they have to travel miles away to get water? I'm sorry if they do and I suppose if that is the case then I don't have a point... I used to think "Why are we giving to other countries when we have people in our own who need help?" But it's so hard to realize that even the poorest people here would be wealthy in some places in Africa. No one should die of something as common as diarrhea; and the Western world has caused these problems by exploiting the people and their resources. 1% is really not that much to give...especially if it can help the poorest of the poor. And if it helps to stop terrorist organizations from popping up and exploiting these people then that is a win-win.
  2. I dont know how this argument started but I cant agree more with the post above

  3. +1.

    And this.

    I believe that what Bono does for Africa is more important than what he does in U2. He can go on and on and on about it if he wants to.
  5. Why people criticize Bono. He's been in Africa already while he was relatively unknown (Ethiopia 1985) and since then has brought Africa to the attention of people as one of the few people who didn't let go on this subject. Ok, the speeches during a concert sometimes bore me as well, but we all know that's part of being Bono. Bono, the man you love to hate, guess someone has to take that part.

    But during economic downturn I also can understand people say that first look into your own country and then solve others. Holland is a small country and we give loads to charities. But still we have water, food, tv, radio, can go to concerts, have a car, electric etc etc

    One thing I've always wondered though, 28 years after live aid 1, why is this still an issue, where has all the money gone, and it must be loads of money. Dictators, civil wars? It's like throwing money in a well without a bottom and you never see it back. To solve problems this needs to be structured. As we say here, don't give them fish but learn them how to fish. In that regards, Edun was to help local farmers. And there came the critics again, they do it for the money, to get them a conscious blahblah. Also here again, they (Ali and Bono) sticked in what they believe, taking large losses in the begin. That's why they moved production also to fair trade companies in China, but now try to go back to their original business plan, with help of Diesel.

    Will there ever be no hunger? Who knows. It's all about the money. If only we could stop cheap fabricating and support economies/build partnerships by placing orders there that would help much more then throwing just millions over the fence.

    To come back to Bono, if people say he actually doesn't give a s..t about Africa, listen to the 360 concert from Johannesburg where he was few times in tears taking about the continent.
  6. So, that new album.....

  7. That I still don't believe is being even close to being finished LOL

    At least Bono isn't being explicit in his campaigning in HIS LYRICS. IMAGINE IF HIS LYRICS INVOLVED HIS PLIGHT. UGH. IT COULD BE WORSE.

  8. I think it might be actually closer to finishing than we think. At least they're actually recording stuff, not just messing around a few chords and trying styles etc
  9. Yeah agreed, I'm hoping for the best, expecting the worst (as in album not out this year) LOL

  10. Survival of the fittest would imply that Australia's poor and those in Africa are on an equal playing field, with equal opportunities. This is far from true.
  11. So, what's this topic about now?
  12. Originally posted by Malahide:Why people criticize Bono. He's been in Africa already while he was relatively unknown (Ethiopia 1985) and since then has brought Africa to the attention of people as one of the few people who didn't let go on this subject. Ok, the speeches during a concert sometimes bore me as well, but we all know that's part of being Bono. Bono, the man you love to hate, guess someone has to take that part.

    But during economic downturn I also can understand people say that first look into your own country and then solve others. Holland is a small country and we give loads to charities. But still we have water, food, tv, radio, can go to concerts, have a car, electric etc etc

    One thing I've always wondered though, 28 years after live aid 1, why is this still an issue, where has all the money gone, and it must be loads of money. Dictators, civil wars? It's like throwing money in a well without a bottom and you never see it back. To solve problems this needs to be structured. As we say here, don't give them fish but learn them how to fish. In that regards, Edun was to help local farmers. And there came the critics again, they do it for the money, to get them a conscious blahblah. Also here again, they (Ali and Bono) sticked in what they believe, taking large losses in the begin. That's why they moved production also to fair trade companies in China, but now try to go back to their original business plan, with help of Diesel.

    Will there ever be no hunger? Who knows. It's all about the money. If only we could stop cheap fabricating and support economies/build partnerships by placing orders there that would help much more then throwing just millions over the fence.

    To come back to Bono, if people say he actually doesn't give a s..t about Africa, listen to the 360 concert from Johannesburg where he was few times in tears taking about the continent.

    I think that aid indeed didn't work that well at the time of Live Aid. I think it has gotten much smarter now, it's much more about creating the conditions for countries to lift themselves out of poverty so that they won't need aid any more. Normal aid money is only a short term solution, I think that has been realized.
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