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  1. The reason why I didn't mention The Claw is not because I didn't feel it was a worthy innovative step. It was downright amazing in every single regard, from the engineering design, its implementation on a global scale, and the fact that they were able to use it under an effectively carbon-neutral scheme. The one reason I chose not to mention it is that The Claw is essentially a theorist's dream come true. Yes, all the technology exists, the lump sum of cash required to implement 360 is not something any band other than U2 can undertake and is certainly not something that U2 can seek to repeat (this is due more to human costs than financial). With the technological advances of ZooTV, at the very least the concept of incorporating video into concerts was able to stick around. The Claw and 360 was such an undertaking that pushed the boundaries of audio, video, and theatrical to such a limit that I feel none of the individual talking points of The Claw can be implemented on a small scale.

    TL;DR version - The Claw was so damned massive and expensive to tour with that no other band aside from U2 could hope to do something similar. It can't be replicated or "reverse engineered" to work with other groups because other groups are not U2.

    But make no mistake, U2 still has that reputation of being the innovators in field of live performance. I'm just saying that in this day and age, Coldplay deserves a feather in their cap for what they've done.

    Now from a musical standpoint, this is where the age difference emerges. A lot of people like to compare MX to The Joshua Tree, but I honestly can't see the comparison. This is because I actually relate more to Mylo Xyloto than I do to The Joshua Tree in terms of the sound and the lyrical themes. In my opinion, if you're looking for a rock album written for college students in their early twenties, look no further because Mylo Xyloto is pretty much that album (closely contested with Battle Born). But again, that's just my opinion which I feel is deeply influenced by my age. It's also the same reason I prefer ATYCLB and HTDAAB over U2's older work.


  2. You gotta be kidding me?

    MX Tour was, to me, over the top. In my opinion, the only thing that Coldplay should be rewarded for is the bands. The rest of it was added unnecessary extras. I saw Coldplay twice when they toured that album and even though the performance in Sunderland was excellent, everything else apart from the bands was pointless. The props that were beside the stage? No. The balloons? Tacky. Every band does it now. Confetti? Again, tacky. It was all tacky props to boost crowd participation for a minute but only minimally. To me, that tour was really nothing special. It's just Coldplay trying to replicate U2, which they
    will never do. They can never be as eccentric or mad as U2 will ever be when it comes to live shows.

    Also, yeah, Coldplay had all this crowd participation stuff, but U2 had the claw to connect the audience. It was just a simple and unique way of bringing a show together between the band and the fans. If you really think about, 360 tour is probably one of the most intelligent ideas for a tour ever.
  4. Originally posted by ahn1991:The reason why I didn't mention The Claw is not because I didn't feel it was a worthy innovative step. It was downright amazing in every single regard, from the engineering design, its implementation on a global scale, and the fact that they were able to use it under an effectively carbon-neutral scheme. The one reason I chose not to mention it is that The Claw is essentially a theorist's dream come true. Yes, all the technology exists, the lump sum of cash required to implement 360 is not something any band other than U2 can undertake and is certainly not something that U2 can seek to repeat (this is due more to human costs than financial). With the technological advances of ZooTV, at the very least the concept of incorporating video into concerts was able to stick around. The Claw and 360 was such an undertaking that pushed the boundaries of audio, video, and theatrical to such a limit that I feel none of the individual talking points of The Claw can be implemented on a small scale.

    TL;DR version - The Claw was so damned massive and expensive to tour with that no other band aside from U2 could hope to do something similar. It can't be replicated or "reverse engineered" to work with other groups because other groups are not U2.

    But make no mistake, U2 still has that reputation of being the innovators in field of live performance. I'm just saying that in this day and age, Coldplay deserves a feather in their cap for what they've done.

    Now from a musical standpoint, this is where the age difference emerges. A lot of people like to compare MX to The Joshua Tree, but I honestly can't see the comparison. This is because I actually relate more to Mylo Xyloto than I do to The Joshua Tree in terms of the sound and the lyrical themes. In my opinion, if you're looking for a rock album written for college students in their early twenties, look no further because Mylo Xyloto is pretty much that album (closely contested with Battle Born). But again, that's just my opinion which I feel is deeply influenced by my age. It's also the same reason I prefer ATYCLB and HTDAAB over U2's older work.

    I'd say the main thing Coldplay has going for them is charisma. Chris Martin gets into his shows like no one else, his enthusiasm is outstanding. But I wouldn't really say they've achieved enough to be thought of in the scale that you're referring to them in. What is it that people had trouble calling them in this or another topic? Legends. I have a feeling that's where you're going, whereas I'm saying they haven't near achieved that yet and who knows if they ever will. I think it's too early to say though.

    I really think you're delusional about the claw not being worthy of being called innovative, we'll just agree to disagree on that one because I really don't see how you can say that!

    As for your assessment on my Mylo vs JT comparison...you MUST be trolling now...sorry, but a song like I Still Haven't Found What I'm Looking For should resonate with the age-group you're talking about everywhere, and I'm pretty sure it did and still does. That song alone beats the entire Mylo album. In fact I would take the first half of Joshua Tree over Coldplay's entire existence any day.
  8. wth, been staring at a now 0 timer for some time...any news?
  9. 2hrs 18 minutes to go. Will check in the morning to see if anything exciting happened.

  10. shows zero for me...guess they messed up when coding it, it's probably based on each user's computer's time!
  11. So...it's up now. SBS and Pride done by Calie & Steve Nieve and Chris Daughtry, Michael W. Smith....
  12. Can we all take a moment and praise the glory that is Bono in the Sun City video. Definitely Bono's best look
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