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  1. Originally posted by Alex:I don't know what kind of music you want to play. But here's my two cent suggestion:

    If you choose PAF- style humbuckers for your LP, you should go for something different in the EX. If you want it to be more "cutting" you could go for ceramic pickups like the SD Dimebuckers or for something like the SD SH4 Jeff Beck - high output Alnico V, very prominent in the high mids. I've been using the JayBee and liked it a lot.

    You can listen to soundsamples on the SD website.

    Alex


    basically, i want U2 sound. I want my explorer to sound like Edge's, and my LP to sound like Edges. Thats basically it. I know he uses vintage pickups (which are hard to find ex. T-Tops & Burstbuckers) So yea. Im trying to get my guitars to sound like his.
  2. If you want your guitar to sound like edge's you should try to replicate his setup. Try vintage pickups in your LP and EX. If you decide for Burstbuckers you could think about equipping the LP with #1/#2 and the EX with #2/#3 for more versatility. The LP will most likely have some more low end anyway while the EX might have a little stronger midrange.

    But no one can promise you that one of your guitars won't outshine the other. This depends on a lot of things, not only the pickups.

    Alex
  3. Originally posted by Alex:If you want your guitar to sound like edge's you should try to replicate his setup. Try vintage pickups in your LP and EX. If you decide for Burstbuckers you could think about equipping the LP with #1/#2 and the EX with #2/#3 for more versatility. The LP will most likely have some more low end anyway while the EX might have a little stronger midrange.

    But no one can promise you that one of your guitars won't outshine the other. This depends on a lot of things, not only the pickups.

    Alex


    Yea I've accepted the fact that a Gibson Explorer will outshine an Epi LP. I just don't want the LP to come completely..what's the word... not useless, but basically i dont want to NOT ever use it after I get the explorer. What do you mean by #1/#2 and #2/#3? And say I put the same pickups in both guitars. Would the LP have a lower end than the explorer anyway just because the way its set up and the electronics and all?

    EDIT : Is the word I was looking for obsolete?
  4. The LP design supports the low end of the guitar while the SG / EX design promotes the mids - I don't fully understand why but that's what everybody agrees about.

    The Burstbucker idea was just an example. I'll try to explain it:

    Gibson makes five kinds of Burstbuckers. All of them have in common that the coils aren't exactly alike, but one coil has just a few more windings than the other. This is said to produce a more authentic tone because in the late 50s they weren't able to count the number of windings exactly.

    There are Burstbuckers and Burstbuckers PRO. The PRO ones are waxed and meant to replicate the slightly hotter 59 humbuckers while the others are NOT waxed and meant to replicate the 57 vintage humbucker sound.

    Among the Burstbuckers (not PRO) you can choose between Burstbucker #1 (slightly underwound), #2 (slightly hotter than vintage) and #3 (a bit hotter). It's recommended to put the hotter one in bridge position but you can also use the same type in both positions. The Burstbucker PROs are made in neck and bridge version.

    Basically my suggestion is to equip both guitars with different pickups to keep their sounds different. This would also keep the LP's own right of existence. I'd put the hotter ones into the EX.

    So maybe Burstbucker #1 for LP neck, Burstbucker #2 for LP bridge and a pair of PROs for the EX. Another suggestion could be a pair of GFS- PAF in the LP and a pair of PROs in the EX. Or maybe a pair of SD Seth Lovers for the LP and Burstbuckers #2 (neck) and #3 (bridge) for the EX.
  5. Originally posted by Alex:The LP design supports the low end of the guitar while the SG / EX design promotes the mids - I don't fully understand why but that's what everybody agrees about.

    The Burstbucker idea was just an example. I'll try to explain it:

    Gibson makes five kinds of Burstbuckers. All of them have in common that the coils aren't exactly alike, but one coil has just a few more windings than the other. This is said to produce a more authentic tone because in the late 50s they weren't able to count the number of windings exactly.

    There are Burstbuckers and Burstbuckers PRO. The PRO ones are waxed and meant to replicate the slightly hotter 59 humbuckers while the others are NOT waxed and meant to replicate the 57 vintage humbucker sound.

    Among the Burstbuckers (not PRO) you can choose between Burstbucker #1 (slightly underwound), #2 (slightly hotter than vintage) and #3 (a bit hotter). It's recommended to put the hotter one in bridge position but you can also use the same type in both positions. The Burstbucker PROs are made in neck and bridge version.

    Basically my suggestion is to equip both guitars with different pickups to keep their sounds different. This would also keep the LP's own right of existence. I'd put the hotter ones into the EX.

    So maybe Burstbucker #1 for LP neck, Burstbucker #2 for LP bridge and a pair of PROs for the EX. Another suggestion could be a pair of GFS- PAF in the LP and a pair of PROs in the EX. Or maybe a pair of SD Seth Lovers for the LP and Burstbuckers #2 (neck) and #3 (bridge) for the EX.


    Sounds like it makes a lot of sense. Because as you also pointed out, I want my LP to have a right of existence. I was going to put the GFS PAF's in the LP originally anyway, I've only heard good things about them and they're cheap as hell. As for the explorer, that one might be a more complex decision to make. Again, I do want the sound for the explorer to be a little hotter and more cutting, so maybe I will like the 498r and 500t thats coming with it. We'll see, thanks a lot for the help man!
  6. T-Tops in an Explorer is a good idea for your Explorer. I've also heard some put them in Epiphone Explorers with great success.

    For your Les Paul... Burstbuckers are good. Seth Lover's are good. Fralin makes some tasty pickups; humbuckers and single coils for your Strats.

    As for T-Tops in your LP, that'd work too. T-Tops were in the late 1970's to mid-1980's Les Paul... so they'd work in there too.
  7. In that War tour pick what is that black guitar off too the side? Its at a crappy angle for identification.

  8. I think Jeff mentioned something about it being a Fender of Bono's?


  9. It appears to be Bono's Fender Lead II. It's the guitar that he'd use for "A Day Without Me", during the Boy - UF tours.

  10. On the subject of Bono's Fenders, would that be the same one as that which he used during the JT (and possibly LT) tour? I'm thinking specifically about Exit and In God's Country on the Paris '87 DVD...
  11. Originally posted by WojBhoy:[..]
    On the subject of Bono's Fenders, would that be the same one as that which he used during the JT (and possibly LT) tour? I'm thinking specifically about Exit and In God's Country on the Paris '87 DVD...


    Yea I'm pretty sure its the same one. No need to change the guitar when you can barely hear it anyway
  12. Originally posted by WojBhoy:[..]
    On the subject of Bono's Fenders, would that be the same one as that which he used during the JT (and possibly LT) tour? I'm thinking specifically about Exit and In God's Country on the Paris '87 DVD...


    Nope, he didn't use the Fender Lead II in the footage your mentioned, That was a Danvel-Nelson Tele style custom made guitar. More on that in a minute.

    A Fender Lead II looks similar (in body shape) to a Fender Stratocaster but having (2) instead of (3) pickups.

    They were made between 1979-1982. Judging by the headstock on Bono's, it's a 1979 or 1980. the 1982 headstock shape is a bit different.

    More on this model of guitar at:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fender_Lead_Series

    Here's Bono with his Fender Lead II:



    AND here:



    And lest I forget... HERE:


    As previously mentioned, the guitar that Bono was using during "Exit" and "In God's Country" at the july 4th, 1987 Paris show was a Danvel-Nelson Telecaster-style guitar.

    BONO's DANVEL/NELSON:


    AND here:



    It can be verified in the bonus DVD from the box set version of The Joshua Tree or on this you-tube footage:



    Derrick Nelson, from Ireland, did a lot of repairs for The Edge's guitars over the years. Edge joked (in Guitar Player 1985) that Derrick has great bed-side manner with guitars.

    Derrick also made guitars under the brand name "Danvel-Nelson" Most were custom jobs that looked similar to other guitars.

    The Edge used a Danvel-Nelson Stratocaster-style guitar during "...Streets..." on by the Fall 1987 leg of The Joshua Tour and can be seen during "...Streets..." in Rattle and Hum.



    AND here...



    AND again, here:



    The pickups on the Danvel-Nelson Strat-style 'appear' to be EMG's but I've not confirmed that as of yet.

    That said, you can see the natural progression from his "Blackie 1" to the Danvel-Nelson (wi/an active EMG or EMG style pickup) and the by Love Town, the Eric Clapton's with active "Golden Lace Sensor" pickups.

    You-tube footage from Rattle and Hum hee:


    AND You-tube footage from Los Angeles (November 1987) [good shot of it about 1:58n minute mark]:



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