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  1. Originally posted by haytrain:Just watched the videos Jeff posted with Edge talking about his guitars. What's the name of the effect Edge brought in when he was playing the inifinite guitar? It's a synth-y sort of sound....


    Fernandes Retro Rocket w/sustainer pick-up in the neck position.

    The sustainer pickup works similar to the original 'infinite guitar' that Michael Brooks developed.

    Edge used his original infinite guitar for The Joshua Tree through Zoo TV tour.

    By Zooropa, as seen on the Sydney DVD, he began using a Les Paul with an E-bow for With Or Without You.

    Since Popmart Edge has used various Fernandes (brand) guitars with Sustainer pickups.
    Popmart "Decade Elite" w/sustainer. He had on sea foam and one orange.
    Elevation "Native Pro" w/sustainer. Metallic green finish.
    Vertigo Tour. Retro Rocket w/sustainer. Blackfinish, which ISN"T a stock colour for the Retro Rocket.
  2. FERNANDES DECADE ELITE w/sustainer (SEAFOAM) - Use: Popmart. With Or Without You, Discotheque & If You Wear That Velvet Dress.



    FERNANDES DECADE ELITE w/sustainer (Orange) - Use: Popmart. With Or Without You, Discotheque & If You Wear That Velvet Dress. Elevation tour: Discotheque & Staring At The Sun





    FERNANDES NATIVE PRO w/sustainer (Metallic Green) - Use: Elevation tour: With Or Without You.



    FERNANDES RETRO ROCKET w/sustainer (Black) - Use: Vertigo tour: With Or Without You.

  3. Man I love the sound and the look of those decades. I love the tone he got for discotheque on that tour, and how versitile it was going from a song like Disco to WOWY. I'll have to look into one of those for a future purchace

    EDIT: Do they not make the decade anymore? I might just get a crappy guitar and put in the sustainer kit. Might be more reasonable.
  4. I bought a '97 Native off eBay about a year ago. Seller neglected to mention that he was a heavy smoker , that the guitar wouldn't operate unless there was a 9V battery connected to the sustainer and that the bridge is unstable to the point that no string on the guitar ever stays in tune. BUYER BEWARE!!!!

    To my knowledge most guitar shops don't carry them. I'd check one out IN A STORE before buying one from the internet...or at least make sure the seller is recommended to avoid making the mistake I did. In this economy I could really use that $300 now.......
  5. Edge's "Native" is a Native Pro. But his was heavily customized.


    Natives come with 2 humbuckers. Edge had the regular humbuckers swapped out for two Duncan Hot Rails (Bridge and Mid positions) and the Sustainer Pickup in the bridge. A new pearl pickguard was needed to accomodate the new pickup setup and so cut and installed.

    Also, the Native headstock has three tuners on top and three on bottom; like a Les Paul. Edge had the neck swapped out to a Decade style / 6 tuners on top neck/headstock - similar to a strat setup.

    So if you want a Native Pro because EDGE used one, you will have to make a number of cusomizations.

    His Decade Elites were mostly stock, except the sea foam wasn't custom for the Decade model. Decade Elite's are no longer made - haven't been for 8+ years.

    You can get a stock Retro Rocket and it will be EXACTLY like Edge's except NOT black, as black is not a stock colour for the Retro Rocket.

    How do I know this? I spoke with the artist rep from Fernades and he gave me the 411.

  6. Originally posted by Alex:Hm... I think I'll have to try one of those Verbzillas... I can think of quite a few song parts in our setlist that could benefit from it. GAS GAS GAS

    Alex


    I tried a Verbzilla in the store. I really liked the effect, but in the end I didn't buy it. I can't accept the fact that these are much more expensive here in Europe, they only cost half as much in the USA (109USD compared to 159EUR). But US dealers don't send them to Europe... not even Amazon.com does.

    I think I'm gonna order the Behringer Verbzilla Clone (RV600 Reverb Machine) instead. It's got some good reviews and it only costs 49EUR.

    Alex
  7. Originally posted by Alex:[..]

    I tried a Verbzilla in the store. I really liked the effect, but in the end I didn't buy it. I can't accept the fact that these are much more expensive here in Europe, they only cost half as much in the USA (109USD compared to 159EUR). But US dealers don't send them to Europe... not even Amazon.com does.

    I think I'm gonna order the Behringer Verbzilla Clone (RV600 Reverb Machine) instead. It's got some good reviews and it only costs 49EUR.

    Alex


    What exactlty are these?

    EDIT: read it again...it is a reverb unit...hummm, reverb can be pretty although is is not my favorite effect.
  8. Originally posted by Alex:[..]

    I tried a Verbzilla in the store. I really liked the effect, but in the end I didn't buy it. I can't accept the fact that these are much more expensive here in Europe, they only cost half as much in the USA (109USD compared to 159EUR). But US dealers don't send them to Europe... not even Amazon.com does.

    I think I'm gonna order the Behringer Verbzilla Clone (RV600 Reverb Machine) instead. It's got some good reviews and it only costs 49EUR.

    Alex


    Sounds like a good plan. That's interesting how they're more in Europe. Behringer are usually perfect, a lot of people think they're really cheap crappy knock offs because of the price, but i've found they're pretty damn good for their price. (kinda like GFS pickups)

  9. That's right. I've already got a Dano Corned Beef mini reverb that I only rarely use with a few clean Tuna Melt tremolo sounds, and this is absolutely sufficient for me. I don't need additional reverberation. But the mentioned "shimmer" effect is a must- have to me, something completely different. And it seems that the only affordable "shimmer" in Europe is the "Space modus" of the Behringer Reverb Machine.

    I'll give a short review in a few days. But I'm quite confident it will be fine. On the Verbzilla I even found a sweet spot for bass guitar.

    BTW, are there any opinions on the Behringer BSY-600 Bass Synth pedal? For 39 EUR it seems like a steal to me.

    Alex
  10. Originally posted by Alex:[..]
    That's right. I've already got a Dano Corned Beef mini reverb that I only rarely use with a few clean Tuna Melt tremolo sounds, and this is absolutely sufficient for me. I don't need additional reverberation. But the mentioned "shimmer" effect is a must- have to me, something completely different. And it seems that the only affordable "shimmer" in Europe is the "Space modus" of the Behringer Reverb Machine.

    I'll give a short review in a few days. But I'm quite confident it will be fine. On the Verbzilla I even found a sweet spot for bass guitar.

    BTW, are there any opinions on the Behringer BSY-600 Bass Synth pedal? For 39 EUR it seems like a steal to me.

    Alex


    I don't have a lot of experience with bass synth pedals, but once I wanted to get the one from Boss, and I heard some quite cool samples...but it was incredble expensive too.
  11. Originally posted by thechicken:[..]

    I don't have a lot of experience with bass synth pedals, but once I wanted to get the one from Boss, and I heard some quite cool samples...but it was incredble expensive too.

    That's right. I was asking because the Behringer is said to be a Boss clone and I thought maybe someone can compare it to the real thing. Well, most likely it's close enough except for the plastic case - but I'm quite confident it won't break when I step on it.

    Alex
  12. Originally posted by Alex:[..]
    That's right. I was asking because the Behringer is said to be a Boss clone and I thought maybe someone can compare it to the real thing. Well, most likely it's close enough except for the plastic case - but I'm quite confident it won't break when I step on it.

    Alex


    Isn't there a store where you can try both?
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