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  1. Originally posted by thechicken:What song is all this discussion about?? By they way, can somebody tell me which songs went through the most radical changes in the key through the tours? (I am not asking about the usual half step down.)

    ISHFWILF is the song we were talking about. I think the most radical key changes that I can think of are UTEOTW (obviously in the album it's in E, but live it's played in Gb or G); Bad on the PopMart tour (A on album -> Ab in most live formats -> G); The Fly (Elevation tour - Ab); Sunday Bloody Sunday during PopMart (Eb minor) and also the jump down from Bm to Ab minor over the years; MLK is in G/Gb live, but whenever Bono's stuck it on the end of One, it's in B; Wake Up Deadman started out in Ab minor live but was played in either E minor or Eb minor during Elevation - those are the only major ones that come to mind off the top of my head.
  2. Originally posted by WojBhoy:[..]
    ISHFWILF is the song we were talking about. I think the most radical key changes that I can think of are UTEOTW (obviously in the album it's in E, but live it's played in Gb or G); Bad on the PopMart tour (A on album -> Ab in most live formats -> G); The Fly (Elevation tour - Ab); Sunday Bloody Sunday during PopMart (Eb minor) and also the jump down from Bm to Ab minor over the years; MLK is in G/Gb live, but whenever Bono's stuck it on the end of One, it's in B; Wake Up Deadman started out in Ab minor live but was played in either E minor or Eb minor during Elevation - those are the only major ones that come to mind off the top of my head.


    Thanks! NIce to know.

  3. Anytime, no doubt I've missed out a few but those are the main ones to my knowledge...



    Watching that BBC vid with Edge showing off his Explorer and the one with his Rick. and the Variax, I was intrigued to see the latter in action as it were, and actually being messed around with as people have said it can be. The thing that got me though, was when he accidentally set it to Love And Peace as opposed to the tuning for The Fly (Which I couldn't help but find vaguely amusing because it still wasn't right, because he was playing in standard tuning, whereas it's played in Eb tuning...), I wondered what tuning LAPOE is actually played in? It also took me a while to notice said alternative tuning when I watched the Chicago DVD...but yeah, what is it?
  4. I finally gave in to GAS and ordered a Gibson Les Paul Studio Worn Brown for a bargain of 632 Euro. They've never been this cheap before - this is Epiphone price range! Until now I used a Korean- made Squier Deluxe Double Fat Tele (mahogany body, mahogany set neck) for Gibson sounds.

    Guess I'm gonna swap the Gibson's Burstbuckers Pro for the 490R/498T combo that's installed in the Squier right now.

    And then I'm gonna sell the Squier. If I just add another guitar to my collection my wife'll kill me.
    And I'll sell the Pro- Burstbuckers, too. Hopefully this will pay off half of the Gibson's price.

    I'm thinking about giving the guitar another color. The worn brown looks strange on pics. But first I'll have to wait until the guitar arrives.

    Alex
  5. Hey guys...I know some of you play bass, and I wanted to get your opinion. (Jeff, not sure if you play, but I'll take your opinion too!) I've played bass before, and have 3 guitars myself, and now I'm thinking of buying a bass of my own. The thing is, I'm not currently (and not really looking to be, honestly) in a band, and I'm good enough to justify spending a ton of money. I'm thinking no more than $300 bucks. Granted, that's probably going to put me in the Squire category, but is that a bad thing when it comes to basses? THIS one caught my eye and has good reviews.

    Thoughts?
  6. If I knew anything about basses other than the fact they have 4 strings, I'd love to contribute lol. However, couldn't help but be slightly nitpicky...
    Originally posted by haytrain:The thing is, I'm not currently (and not really looking to be, honestly) in a band, and I'm good enough to justify spending a ton of money. I'm thinking no more than $300 bucks.

    There's something wrong with that sentence...
  7. Originally posted by WojBhoy:If I knew anything about basses other than the fact they have 4 strings, I'd love to contribute lol. However, couldn't help but be slightly nitpicky...
    [..]
    There's something wrong with that sentence...


    Not looking to be?


  9. Now you've confused me, Harry...
  10. Originally posted by haytrain:Hey guys...I know some of you play bass, and I wanted to get your opinion. (Jeff, not sure if you play, but I'll take your opinion too!) I've played bass before, and have 3 guitars myself, and now I'm thinking of buying a bass of my own. The thing is, I'm not currently (and not really looking to be, honestly) in a band, and I'm good enough to justify spending a ton of money. I'm thinking no more than $300 bucks. Granted, that's probably going to put me in the Squire category, but is that a bad thing when it comes to basses? THIS one caught my eye and has good reviews.

    Thoughts?


    Squiers' in my opinion, are garbage. You can get a Mexican made FENDER and it will serve you better. Like Epiphone LP's and Strats, you can later swap out the pickups to make it sound that much better... but I'd go with a made in mexico Fender Jazz or Precision and bypass the Squier.
  11. Pardon me, but I disagree.

    Squier Deluxes are IMHO on par with Mexican Fender Standards - plus they have better pickups (Duncan Designed Alnico vs. Ceramic). And they cost only half the price. The Vintage Modified series is part of the Squier Deluxe range. Indonesian Squier standards are quite decent instruments, too.

    BUT:

    The bass you linked to is made of maple - and it has maple fretboard. That means you're gonna get an open sound with a lot of highs - could be desired if you want to go for funky stuff and slapping. But if you want a lot of deep low end, better look elsewhere.

    Alex
  12. Thanks to the both of you. Alex, any ideas for a specific way to go? Like I mentioned, I really can't justify paying more than $300 (So I guess that rules out a Mexican Fender... )
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