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  2. Originally posted by EyesWithPrideB3:[..]

    Anybody know where you can get Herdim picks? Guitar Center doesnt seem to carry them, and the one or two local music shops around me don't carry many picks at all.


    The links supplied on another post should do them and if not, try ebay. Failing that, ill throw a couple your way
  3. Originally posted by PEDRO67:[..]

    He holds them the 'wrong way' (by the tip) so the dimples on the picks (Herdim) produce a more scraping/chiming sound when run over the strings


    I know that, but what fingers/ grip does he use?

    Originally posted by RattleandHum1988:Wire is a tough song to get right. Edge played it two ways basically. On the album version, he picked the strings on top of the delay for the
    --12--12-
    -----12---
    notes. Basically you can barely hear any echo, just modulation, it justs sounds like he's picking the 12/12 really fast. then when he moves up to the
    --15----15---17-(pull off)-15
    ------15--------
    he plays the notes a bit faster, but not fast enough to play over the notes, he plays so the delay can be heard.
    On the live version, he plays the 12/12 parts slower, mainly so he can keep time easier. he doesn't play the 12/12 notes on top of the delay, but lets the delay ring out in place of it. It's hard to explain, i'll make a youtube video demoing it to help you out vanquish.


    Thanks I'm trying to play the album version, I wasn't sure if he plays the 12s that fast, or if it was the delay adding notes and making it sound like he's picking faster than he actually was.

    and I thought the 15s were played
    --15---15---15--17--15
    --15---15---15 ------15 etc.
    does he alternate between strings?

    And what picking technique is he using top play the intro?

    Originally posted by EyesWithPrideB3:[..]

    Anybody know where you can get Herdim picks? Guitar Center doesnt seem to carry them, and the one or two local music shops around me don't carry many picks at all.


    I bought some from this guy in Canada on eBay, free shipping too

    http://cgi.ebay.com.au/10-GENUINE-Blue-Herdim-Pics-with-The-Edge-W-Germany_W0QQitemZ200405632181QQcmdZViewItemQQptZGuitar_Accessories?hash=item2ea91b44b5

  4. Also, I was trying to adjust the intonation on my guitar (via the tune-o-matic bridge). It takes ages even with an electronic tuner.

    One issue i've noticed when tuning the strings )with the guitar on my lap) is that if you lean the guitar body forwards or backwards while tuning, it changes the pitch of the strings.

    So you can get a string in perfect tune while the guitar is slighlty leaning back on your chest but if you tilt it forward until it is then perpendicular to the floor it changes pitch, making it very hard to tune.

    What do you experienced players do? Should I lie the guitar down flat (or put it in my hardcase) and then tune it?
  5. Originally posted by vanquish:Also, I was trying to adjust the intonation on my guitar (via the tune-o-matic bridge). It takes ages even with an electronic tuner.

    One issue i've noticed when tuning the strings )with the guitar on my lap) is that if you lean the guitar body forwards or backwards while tuning, it changes the pitch of the strings.

    So you can get a string in perfect tune while the guitar is slighlty leaning back on your chest but if you tilt it forward until it is then perpendicular to the floor it changes pitch, making it very hard to tune.

    What do you experienced players do? Should I lie the guitar down flat (or put it in my hardcase) and then tune it?

    Generally when I tune the guitar, I just tune it by ear as I play whether standing or sitting and resting the guitar on my knee, because then you're able to take into account your own finger pressure too i.e. playing chords to make sure everything works nicely. That's just me though, and no doubt someone a bit more clued up on technicalities might say I'm doing it wrong etc. but hey, it works for me, and that's kinda the most important thing, since you're the one playing it and no one else
  6. Originally posted by WojBhoy:[..]
    Generally when I tune the guitar, I just tune it by ear as I play whether standing or sitting and resting the guitar on my knee, because then you're able to take into account your own finger pressure too i.e. playing chords to make sure everything works nicely. That's just me though, and no doubt someone a bit more clued up on technicalities might say I'm doing it wrong etc. but hey, it works for me, and that's kinda the most important thing, since you're the one playing it and no one else


    Thanks, but yea i'll need a little more technical advice, as i'm trying to get correct intonation.
    And the intonation procedure requires constant retuning of the strings with each adjustment to the saddles. Which makes using the right tuning technique important.
  7. Originally posted by vanquish:[..]

    Thanks, but yea i'll need a little more technical advice, as i'm trying to get correct intonation.
    And the intonation procedure requires constant retuning of the strings with each adjustment to the saddles. Which makes using the right tuning technique important.


    If the intonation is off, I'd suggest taking it into a guitar tech. he'd be able to do it for you fast, you WOULD have to pay though, but at least you know it's getting done right. you could even just get a general set up of your guitar at the same time, which always, ALWAYS improves the playing and sound. I've been playing for three years, and I still take it into a guitar tech near me, and I'm always happy with the results. Then again, if you want to learn all that now, it would be good, that way you can do it all the time in the future without paying at all.
  8. Originally posted by RattleandHum1988:[..]

    If the intonation is off, I'd suggest taking it into a guitar tech. he'd be able to do it for you fast, you WOULD have to pay though, but at least you know it's getting done right. you could even just get a general set up of your guitar at the same time, which always, ALWAYS improves the playing and sound. I've been playing for three years, and I still take it into a guitar tech near me, and I'm always happy with the results. Then again, if you want to learn all that now, it would be good, that way you can do it all the time in the future without paying at all.


    It'll cost me like a 100 bucks to do, so I'd rather spend some time and do it myself now and maybe in a years time get it professionally set up (and get it restrung too).

    Also just confirming on a correctly intoned guitar, every note on the fretboard should be at the correct pitch right? Currently my high e string does that but not the others
  9. Originally posted by LikeASong:[..]It has to be Em. I have never ever tried Numb, but if there are G and C, it has to be Em

    In fact Edge probably uses power chords, just hitting the 3 first strings, so it would be G5, C5 and E5 (being G and C major chords, and E a minor).


    EDIT: OK, that happens when you post your reply without reading the whole topic to the end. Jeff, sorry, the merit on the X5 chords is yours


    I agree with you on the scale thing...C and D suggest G/Em as a key. Let's just not forget that music is not science. It could be an E Major chord, as in many other songs with C, D and E, all major.
    Just to add a little theory discussion in here.
  10. Originally posted by anstratdubh1979:[image]

    "These are a few of my favorite things..." ... t'is 5 of the 11 'ladies'.

    Left to Right
    2002 Rickenbacker 330 (6-string) burgundy glo finish (fairly rare finish)
    2006 Epiphone Music Rising Les Paul
    1998 Fender 'Eric Clapton' model Stratocaster (needs the Rene' Castro paintjob, eh?)
    2004 Fender Telecaster Custom (similar to the one Edge used in the "Vertigo" video, only mine is black instead of walnut finish)
    1976 Ltd. Edition Gibson Explorer (Same make, model and vintage as our guitar hero)


    Very nice!! What kinds of amps and FX do you use?
  11. Originally posted by thechicken:I agree with you on the scale thing...C and D suggest G/Em as a key. Let's just not forget that music is not science. It could be an E Major chord, as in many other songs with C, D and E, all major.
    Just to add a little theory discussion in here.
    I have NO idea of musical theory, don't misunderstand me. And of course I know a lot of songs with C, D and E all major, even G D C E I was just guessing while mentally listening to the song, and if you do that you realize that the E must be minor, it changes to a sad sound, correspondant to a minor chord...

    [MAJOR CHORDS] Dont move dont talk out of time dont think dont worry everything's just fine [MINOR CHORD] just fine... , even the intonation of the verse changes to a sad note, a minor chord. I think
  12. Originally posted by vanquish:[..]

    It'll cost me like a 100 bucks to do, so I'd rather spend some time and do it myself now and maybe in a years time get it professionally set up (and get it restrung too).

    Also just confirming on a correctly intoned guitar, every note on the fretboard should be at the correct pitch right? Currently my high e string does that but not the others


    The way to tell if a string is in proper intonation, is tune the open string so it's in tune, then play the note on the 12th fret of the same string, and if it also says it's in tune then you're good.
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