1. And they are beat Argentina in the World Cup today. So seems that they have THAT technology down!

  2. Thank you very much. But I don't know if "German Silver" was really invented here... we call it "Neusilber" which means "New Silver". I think it's a mix of several kinds of metal.

    Alex
  3. Originally posted by Alex:[..]
    Thank you very much. But I don't know if "German Silver" was really invented here... we call it "Neusilber" which means "New Silver". I think it's a mix of several kinds of metal.

    Alex


    You are welcome. Well is was in fact a bit of a joke I mean, guitar as bass technology is much more american than anything else, but Germany has pioneered most areas when the subject is technology and science in general.
  4. I've been eyeing the axe-fx with hungry eyes lately Looks like an insane rig in a box, seems like a lot of U2 tribute guys use em' too. Something I like about that opposed to something like the M13 (what I have now) is the fact that you can change a bunch of effects with one push of a button on a midi controller. Besides that though, the thing sounds great.
  5. Originally posted by RattleandHum1988:I've been eyeing the axe-fx with hungry eyes lately Looks like an insane rig in a box, seems like a lot of U2 tribute guys use em' too. Something I like about that opposed to something like the M13 (what I have now) is the fact that you can change a bunch of effects with one push of a button on a midi controller. Besides that though, the thing sounds great.


    With Joshua Tree (Tribute) Chas gets 99% of the tones from the Axe-FX. Korg A3 gets the tones for "Mysterious Ways".

    But for home use... the M13 is amazing and you can get loads of great U2 tones.

    For tribute Bono's, the M13 will do the job for his guitar bits.

    Think moneywise too... All the money you spend on an AxeFX and a proper controller.... you could have a few more guitars for variety to use with your M13. Again, for home use or smaller gigs this might be the better solution. I don't know that you will get your money's worth if you are just talking about playing a bit at home.
  6. Originally posted by anstratdubh1979:[..]

    With Joshua Tree (Tribute) Chas gets 99% of the tones from the Axe-FX. Korg A3 gets the tones for "Mysterious Ways".

    But for home use... the M13 is amazing and you can get loads of great U2 tones.

    For tribute Bono's, the M13 will do the job for his guitar bits.

    Think moneywise too... All the money you spend on an AxeFX and a proper controller.... you could have a few more guitars for variety to use with your M13. Again, for home use or smaller gigs this might be the better solution. I don't know that you will get your money's worth if you are just talking about playing a bit at home.


    Very true. And yeah, a lot of guys in tributes use the axe fx. I would buy it with the idea in mind of starting a tribute band, which is what I want to do now. But I guess it would only be smart to wait until that happens to even consider spending that much money. And its true about the guitars, but the guitars I have in mind are just as much (sweet sweet rickenbacker) but then, there's always ebay. Surprisingly i've never ever seen an axe-fx on ebay.

    Ultimately it would be stupid to buy the axe fx for tinkering around in my basement (what i do now). Might as well stick with the m13 until I can try to get this tribute band up and running! Then who knows

    I'M STILL BUYING AN A3 THOUGH!!!!
  7. Originally posted by RattleandHum1988:[..]

    Very true. And yeah, a lot of guys in tributes use the axe fx. I would buy it with the idea in mind of starting a tribute band, which is what I want to do now. But I guess it would only be smart to wait until that happens to even consider spending that much money. And its true about the guitars, but the guitars I have in mind are just as much (sweet sweet rickenbacker) but then, there's always ebay. Surprisingly i've never ever seen an axe-fx on ebay.

    Ultimately it would be stupid to buy the axe fx for tinkering around in my basement (what i do now). Might as well stick with the m13 until I can try to get this tribute band up and running! Then who knows

    I'M STILL BUYING AN A3 THOUGH!!!!


    Natually! A Korg A3 is fairly cheap and who doesn't want to do Edge's funky foot shuffle dance while playing Mysterious Ways in their basement/bedroom and/or garage?
  8. Originally posted by anstratdubh1979:[..]

    Natually! A Korg A3 is fairly cheap and who doesn't want to do Edge's funky foot shuffle dance while playing Mysterious Ways in their basement/bedroom and/or garage?


    True true!!! I've just been researching and asking some poeple about how it would work with the M13. I've considered using the Latch mode through MIDI to control the presets on the A3 (with the M13 working as a makeshift MIDI controller) and I've also considered just running it in the effects loop, or even just running it after the m13 in the effects chain. The main thing I'm trying to achieve is, being able to essentially select a scene that's for the A3. I don't necessarily need to be able to control the A3, seeing as how I'll mostly just be using it for the MW sound (yes, it is worth the 1 sound ).

    The main problem it seems is having the A3 in bypass while i'm using other scenes. How does the external effect loop work? Is there some effect setting that's made for external effect loop pedals? (I haven't checked) Or is it always in the effects loop?

    But the ultimate goal would be being able to control the A3 using the M13. Say, going from the MW sound to the Numb sound without touching the A3 itself. THAT would be killer. Not sure if it can be done though...Having the A3 being controlled by the M13, AND being able to go into bypass while not using it and using hte M13 scenes alone. The only solution I can think of is creating a preset on the A3 that I can select from the M13 (if I was to use this method) which is just a makeshift bypass setting, that way it will still be active, but won't be creating any noise.

    This is all probably very confusing, I'll be surprised and happy if you can translate it into sense anstratdubh. This was more of a "what's on my mind" rant than an actual gear question, but if you have the resources to answer it (if anyone does) i'd be supremely happy.

    Alex
  9. Vertigo siren.



  10. Very cool, right sound, right pedal, but I do'nt think that's how Edge does it. I think what Edge does is set the pedal in "oscillation" mode, so when he plays the chord and rolls up the volume (or tone?) knob it "oscillates" creating that feedbacky siren sound. If you can find a video of Edge opening up that sound for Vertigo, you can see him play the chord on his country gent (from COBL) and roll up the knob, then while the sound is still going he quickly switches to the tele.


    EDIT: here's how Edge does it:
  11. Originally posted by RattleandHum1988:[..]

    Very cool, right sound, right pedal, but I do'nt think that's how Edge does it. I think what Edge does is set the pedal in "oscillation" mode, so when he plays the chord and rolls up the volume (or tone?) knob it "oscillates" creating that feedbacky siren sound. If you can find a video of Edge opening up that sound for Vertigo, you can see him play the chord on his country gent (from COBL) and roll up the knob, then while the sound is still going he quickly switches to the tele.


    EDIT: here's how Edge does it: [YouTube Video]


    The video link you put is fine to start the sound. That was how I did it too but didn't have the video on for that. That was the bit most of us already knew. What I was showing and hence the video was the pitch shift that Edge did later in the tour.

    Early in the tour it was just getting the one upward siren. And Edge did that like the video you put up.

    ALSO... you don't roll the volume up, you actually roll it down (off), the crunch disappears and you are left with the oscillation that makes the siren.

    Later in the tour, when he began having the siren go up and down in pitch, like the Pasadena DVD, there is more to the sound. It isn't just the initial upware pitch of the siren. It modulates up and down (like the DVD). That was what I was showing - What (presumeably) Dallas is doing underneath the stage once the siren goes starts.
  12. Am I the only one who doesnt like the siren at all? Anyway, Jeff, good approach, and nice discussion with Alex