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  1. Originally posted by anstratdubh1979:[..]




    He didn't switch back. Started with Explorer, there was an issue, swapped out for the LP Custom and finished the song.

    The odd thought there was why did the not swap out for another Explorer. He owns 12 (at last count). I'm guessing that there are -- at least -- 2 on the tour.

    I wish I could remember which show that it was... I saw the video on YouTube.

    At the time I remember a few folks saying "See it can be done, BD sounds great on the LP". But there was a defiinite change in tone on that YouTube clip from that show. Explorer is brighter than an LP.


    I thought that you meant there was a problem with the way the guitar was sounding on the song and he'd switched to the LP for Beautiful Day every show since...scared the crap out of me
  2. I agree that the explorer and the LP did sound a tiny bit different, but only to a picky musicians ear. I did hear a difference myself, but it wasn't that substantial. You said yourself people were saying he could have swapped them out and it wouldn't have made a difference, which proves my point that people (most notably non-musicians) wouldn't notice a difference.

    I still think he can cut down the number of guitars by a lot. Just look at how he's changed guitars for songs over the years. New Years Day was played on a strat up until about halfway through the ZooTV tour, and for me it didn't really change the feeling of the song when the guitar was changed.
    Same with sunday bloody sunday, went from a strat to a tele and now back to a strat (i'm leaving out popmart, totally different rendition). Didn't make that much of a difference of the feeling of the song for me. The biggest difference on that song is that the tempo and key have changed over the years, but the guitar sound isn't that big of a changer.

    Again, I don't have a problem with it, I just find it UNNECESSARY. Seems like people aren't getting that. I very much respect the fact that he uses that many guitars. The only problem I DO have, is when people think it makes a big difference to the crowd. It doesn't. And the other problem I have, is that people misconstrue Edge's gear choices for actually needing that much gear and that many guitars to get a good tone, or even a good variety for tones. Not true, AT ALL. Like I said, I've heard of tribute guys NAILING Edge's tone bringing only something like a Tonelab or an M13 and 3 or 4 guitars to a gig.

    My main point: No one needs to use that many guitars in one gig. Someone like Edge who has a very specific sound in mind and the money to pursue it and experiment may want to use that many guitars in a show, but he certainly doesn't need to, and 98% of the crowd wouldn't notice a difference if he decided not to use that many either.
  3. Who you calling picky musician!




    Originally posted by RattleandHum1988:I agree that the explorer and the LP did sound a tiny bit different, but only to a picky musicians ear. I did hear a difference myself, but it wasn't that substantial. You said yourself people were saying he could have swapped them out and it wouldn't have made a difference, which proves my point that people (most notably non-musicians) wouldn't notice a difference.

    I still think he can cut down the number of guitars by a lot. Just look at how he's changed guitars for songs over the years. New Years Day was played on a strat up until about halfway through the ZooTV tour, and for me it didn't really change the feeling of the song when the guitar was changed.
    Same with sunday bloody sunday, went from a strat to a tele and now back to a strat (i'm leaving out popmart, totally different rendition). Didn't make that much of a difference of the feeling of the song for me. The biggest difference on that song is that the tempo and key have changed over the years, but the guitar sound isn't that big of a changer.

    Again, I don't have a problem with it, I just find it UNNECESSARY. Seems like people aren't getting that. I very much respect the fact that he uses that many guitars. The only problem I DO have, is when people think it makes a big difference to the crowd. It doesn't. And the other problem I have, is that people misconstrue Edge's gear choices for actually needing that much gear and that many guitars to get a good tone, or even a good variety for tones. Not true, AT ALL. Like I said, I've heard of tribute guys NAILING Edge's tone bringing only something like a Tonelab or an M13 and 3 or 4 guitars to a gig.

    My main point: No one needs to use that many guitars in one gig. Someone like Edge who has a very specific sound in mind and the money to pursue it and experiment may want to use that many guitars in a show, but he certainly doesn't need to, and 98% of the crowd wouldn't notice a difference if he decided not to use that many either.


  4. Thinking of getting one of these..




    Played it the other day and really loved it, will probably sell my LP if I do get it


  6. I know! I'd never played a hollow electric guitar before, I was playing it in the shop and turned the amp delay on and just got the perfect rhythm for Still Haven't Found and played it for ages Really nice feel off it, could have stayed there for years
  7. They are niiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiice, I love that sweet and deep tone that the hollows give. I used to be more of a solid guitar -specially Les Paul- fan, but I'm more and more interested (and fascinated) by the hollow/semi-hollow ones. Doesn't matter if it's a 195$ Epiphone Dot or a 4.675€ Gibson ES-335, I simply love playing them, even seeing them


  8. All of us who are inspired by Edge
    I think everyone who learned guitar because of Edge and tried to get Edge's tone automatically becomes a tone freak. I think we can leave that whole argument to rest though, and start talking about something else!


    Like that Casino! So weird that you brought that up, recently I decided I was going to start saving up for an Epi casino haha, great minds think alike I guess. I've always loved the tone of Edge's casino, and the tone of hollowbodies themselves. I like that the casino is fully hollow as opposed to semi-. Great stuff!
  9. speaking of picky...this is how picky I am.

    I will NEVER use a digital effect unit. No digital delay will ever come close to my 90's Deluxe Memory Man. Does that make me a tone snob? Yep. Do I care? Nope. Does it sound the best to me? Yep.

  10. Did this because I'm bored, and procrastinating (supposed to be finish an essay)!

    Another sort of demo of the ZT. I'm really pushing this amp because it sounds amazing, for recording, or for performing. It can literally fit in a backpack, and it can get loud enough to keep up with a band (most importantly, a drum kit).

    Made this clip, don't pay attention to playing (again, this is about the tone! ) or closeness to the actual guitar tones of hte songs, I used my strat for the whole thing, and only 2 or 3 different settings on my M13. Dicked around on Beautiful Day, Walk On, and just played the In God's Country riff at the end.

    Enjoy!

    http://soundcloud.com/rattleandhum1988/zt-lunchbox-demo-u2-2

    Alex

    P.S: BUY THIS AMP NOW!!! (I should get paid by ZT to advertise for them)
  11. Alex...this may be a bit of a dumb question, but...I would wanna gig with that amp, it sounds so classic...but it's just too small for a stage

    What would you even do to use it at a gig? Set it on top of something and mic it? It's just SO small!
  12. Originally posted by EyesWithPrideB3:Alex...this may be a bit of a dumb question, but...I would wanna gig with that amp, it sounds so classic...but it's just too small for a stage

    What would you even do to use it at a gig? Set it on top of something and mic it? It's just SO small!


    It is very small for a stage, but that doesn't really matter in my opinion. The people that are there to see you play and for the music don't really know anything about amps, nor do they care, when you first bring it out they might think of it as a toy and almost laughable, but it would be forgotten once the music started. The same with musicians, most of them would probably just be amazed at how great an amp of this size sounds. But I defiinitely do know what you mean, in that the amp has NO stage presence. Even though it's the band that's supposed to have it, having bigger, nicer looking amps does make an image difference. I totally get where you're at. I guess it comes down to how much your willing to sacrifice for sound. It's one of the reasons I haven't tried it yet for sure, but at the same time it might even be an ice-breaker when playing in front of a crowd! (Because it's so small it's hilarious )

    And yeah it would just sit and get mic'd up. It would probably have to sit ON something (like you said), because the hardest part of this amp is finding a mic stand small enough to mic it It would have to be on a riser or something, or just on top of another amp! I haven't used it yet personally, I'm still using my Fender Blues Jr. to gig with, because I LOVE it's tone, it's a good size to travel with, and the sound just really suits my playing style. But I do plan to try out the ZT in the future. If it works as well as I think it will, I might just KEEP gigging with it. It's super small, and super clean.
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