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  1. Hi (and happy new year) everyone,

    I am looking for a Fernandes Retrorocket Elite and desperately need your help. Currently the Elites are available to an really good price it seems, compared what they cost before. 599USD.
    So for me, sent to Germany, it would be 430 Euros + Shipping + tax, so ~600Euros/820USD. Regularly you paid ~1100 Euros here before. I guess thats due to Fernandes' switch to the new series "Retrorocket Elite JP" made in Japan in 2012/13.

    Should I consider anything when buying one of those remaining Retrorocket Elites, here from Korea? Anything thats different from other (probably older) Retrorocket Elites? E.g., as far as I know Edge from U2 didnt like the set-neck of the Elites, that why he changed/updated a Retrorocket Pro (dont know which year, probably older) with the bolt-on neck. Afaik Edge had a 2003 Elite and a 2009 Retrorocket Pro built to Elite specs (due to the
    bolt-on vs set-neck). But is that really an issue (I dont look for the 100% copy, its more a Quality related question to me)
    Example:
    Thats one of the current offers, 599 USD, Retrorocket Elite, new:

    http://www.fernandesguitarshop.com/retrorocket/81-retrorocket-elite.html



    There is one guy from the UK who sells a 2001 Retrorocket Elite (from Japan) for ~900 Euros.
    http://www.ebay.de/itm/291051620053?ssPageName=STRKEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m
    1423.l2648

    At least it seems it has the different bolt-on neck, but but eg
    no locking mechanic (?). Do you thing spending another 300 Euros would be
    worth it to get the 2001 one? I normaly tend to spend extra money for more
    vintage guitars, but in this case It would be almost the double price, and I am not sure if it would make sense here. What would you do, jump on a vintage version? Or maybe wait for the JP due to the bolt on neck? Or would you buy one of those 599USD offers with the Elite from Korea? Currently I tend to do the last thing, 599 USD from the USA as it seems a good deal. What do you think?

    Every small hint would be really kind and appreciated!
    Thanks a lot!!!
    Joerg
  2. It definitely seems like a good offer even if it's not the most U2-ish of them all... But it's a hell of a guitar anyway, and for that price..!! Forget about the bolt-on neck and go for that great deal, I say
  3. Fun stuff...

    Andy from ProGuitarShop.com always does some cool video lessons. He's done a few U2 lessons. And in this case, "Zooropa".

    Have a look.




    Ciao 4 now.
    Jeffrey
  4. What an obscure song for Andy to do. Have always respected the guy and if possible this makes it tenfold!
  5. I'm in school. Now I want to go home and play Zooropa, dammit.
  6. That's just...beautiful.
  7. Bump for Ali Welcome to U2start's guitar community.
  8. Thanks a lot Sergio
    Too soon for the info in here I guess, but I'll keep an eye on it!
  9. I'm going to try that this weekend!
    nice video lesson!
  10. Assuming the main riff in "Invisible" (ie: the sound at the beginning that ha the same melody as 'there is no them/only us") is The Edge on guitar, how would you go about achieving that sound?

    I'm thinking a pretty heavy reliance on reverb, possibly a really wide, open setting like arena or perhaps even hall, dialed down to keep it pretty "compact" and not too vast.

    Add to that maybe the fuzz factory? I was thinking this morning while listening that it reminded me a little bit of the siren sound that Edge used on Vertigo during the 360 Tour. Obviously much more controlled, but there's definitely some light fuzz on that line.

    Do we think he's picking it, using an e-bow, or just has a nice comp/sustain on it?

    I love picking this line apart because it's a great lead sound and I want to be able to achieve it - to play Invisible and even use it in my own writing.
  11. Relistening- reverb isn't as deep as I remembered.
  12. I agree it's a pretty cool sound. It sounds like it doesn't take up that much of the frequency spectrum, so it could have some filters on it, but that could also just come from some fuzz.

    It's a pretty great sound. Maybe I'll try to see if I can do anything with my Pod HD500X later.
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