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  1. Originally posted by RattleandHum1988Hmm. I have a feeling they wouldn't do the show if one of them wasn't there now. The ZooTV show had to be done without Adam i think. Wasn't it more less the dress rehearsal and sound and video check for the Sydney movie? As for the early years, they were kids, they were trying to make a career, the show always had to go on. Now, I think they would re-do the show at the end of the tour. Their core, the four of them, is the very spirit of U2, and they've said that themselves. So I think they would just reschedule. If not, Dallas would undoubtedly fill in for Edge.

    Well, they did 2 shows in Sydney and the one which Adam missed was essentially the dress rehearsal - the 2nd show was the one that went onto film, and that was when Adam dragged himself back onstage

    I hear what you say about the 4 being the spirit of U2, but I was just wondering out aloud, really - just thinking whether it would ever be a possibility?
  2. No one, I repeat NO ONE can fill in for The Edge.
  3. Originally posted by LikeASongNo one, I repeat NO ONE can fill in for The Edge.

    He says diplomatically
  4. I acomplished my first dutie managing, my friends band. I found tham a bass player. Afforementioned bass player has fringe benefits. His uncle, owns a guitar store in Florida, and has allegedly had famous customers.
  5. Originally posted by WojBhoy[..]
    I wonder, if Edge ever had to miss a gig (I know Larry missed one or two during the early years, and then there's Adam's fiasco during the last leg of ZooTV), would it be feasible to think that Dallas might fill in for him?


    Originally, when Adam was 'missing' that day, Edge said HE'D play bass and asked Dallas to play guitar.

    But cooler heads prevailed and it was decided that the fans might forgive Stuart on bass more than Edge on bass and Dallas on guitar.

    That said, Dallas is skilled and could certainly cover the parts.
  6. On a side note... I say we need a "Return of The Daltons" for an opening act.
  7. Originally posted by anstratdubh1979On a side note... I say we need a "Return of The Daltons" for an opening act.


  9. For the bass players in the group... and the Adam fans...

    I've been adding more information, pictures and material to the ADAM CLAYTON section of U2 Stage and Studio.

    http://www.u2-stage-and-studio.com/adam/

    Have a look. There will be more information going up throughout the day... Enjoy.
  10. Originally posted by anstratdubh1979For the bass players in the group... and the Adam fans...

    I've been adding more information, pictures and material to the ADAM CLAYTON section of U2 Stage and Studio.

    http://www.u2-stage-and-studio.com/adam/

    Have a look. There will be more information going up throughout the day... Enjoy.

    Good stuff there Jeff, very impressed

    Tis the very reason why you're our first port of call when we have a technical question , i.e. you've searched and learnt a hell of a lot more than the rest of us!
  11. Here's some FAQ's that I've been putting together for the U2 Recording Yahoo Group. The answers are from some of the elders of that forum.

    This will help those with some questions about "What Strat should I get to get Edge sounds to what are good pickup replacement for this or that guitar.

    So who are those that are giving the answers?

    Lyle is a great player and runs Psionic Audio. He makes GREAT effects. One of his greatest products is the TRIAD that is a essentially a stompbox version of the pre-amp in Edge's SDD-3000 Delay - an integral part of Edge's tone. Check him out at www.psionicaudio.com

    Mick - is none other than the tribute Edge in NY's "The Unforgettable Fire".

    Punx is another guitarist and gear enthusiast.

    There will be some updates as I am awaiting answers from a few other tribute Edge's

    And now... U2 RECORDING GROUP – FAQ’S

    1a) What is the best effective Stratocaster to get Edge sounds?

    Lyle: I disagree with the format of the question - what is "best" depends on the budget and quickly becomes subjective as the budget increases.

    For the FAQ, I suggest we focus on "least expensive readily available good options."

    For a Stratocaster, I'd point people to the MIM [Made in Mexico] and earlier MIJ/CIJ [Made in Japan / Crafted in Japan] '50s, '60s, and '70s RI’s [reissues]. The choice here is mostly cosmetic, though the '70s RIs are more likely to have tuning issues, as they have lesser quality tuners, a three bolt neck plate, and two string trees. Still, for those who want "the look" the '70s RI is a reasonable choice. I guess I'm really answering #2 here - #1 is impossible to answer.

    I will hedge a bit and just suggest that anyone looking for "the best" should look at the MIA [Made In America / Made in USA] RIs, the Eric Johnson Stratocaster, and Suhr / Fender CS [Custom Shop].

    With any Stratocaster, you have to try individual guitars to find good ones that resonate well - this is true for $500 Stratocasters and for $3000 Stratocasters. Nothing without the vintage bridge should be considered.

    Mick: Any Strat with balanced pickups.

    Punx: Any Strat, best US of course but the Mexicans are equal – In my opinion



    1b) What is the best/budget effective Stratocaster to get Edge sounds?

    Lyle: N/A

    Mick: `70 RI (1970’s reissue).

    Punx: Any. There is nothing wrong with Squier Stratocasters. I even started on a Hohner and it was ok. Not great but it didn't stop me. MIM [Made in Mexico] Fender Stratocasters are equal to US Stratocasters – In my opinion.




    2a) What are good Explorer pickup replacements?

    Lyle: Again, the list of good pickups is long and subjective. Budget-wise, the Seymour Duncan '59s. Better options start at the Duncan Seth Lovers (which I usually recommend) and go up for Lollars, Fralins, Holmes, etc

    Mick: Seth Lovers

    Punx: N/A


    2b) What are good Les Paul pickup replacements?

    Lyle: For a LP Custom, the same answers as 2a. [Budget-wise, the Seymour Duncan '59s. Better options start at the Duncan Seth Lovers (which I usually recommend) and go up for Lollars, Fralins, Holmes, etc.]

    For a Les Paul Standard, add the Duncan Antiquities in place of the Duncan Seth Lovers.

    Mick: Seth Lovers

    Punx: * sorry only own an Epiphone LP and hardly play it. I'm happy with the stock bridge pickup, the neck could be a little brighter IMO. But I don't feel confident to comment *


    2c) What are good Strat pickup replacements?

    Lyle: The Fender 57/62 set is a very nice sounding set of pickups that will deliver Edge tones at a reasonable price. I personally use Kinman’s, but they are very expensive (as well as being the only noiseless pickups worth considering in a Strat). Again, if you can afford Kinmans, Fralins, Lollars, etc, these are all great. But from the perspective of a beginner/intermediate player wanting to get closer to Edge's tones without breaking the bank, the Fender 57/62 set is IMO the best basic option.

    The CS 69s, the Duncans, the Duncan Antiquities, the Fender 57/62s, or
    Fralin Vintages would all be good choices.

    Mick: Kinman Woodstocks.

    Punx: For vintage Edge tones replace the stock bridge PU with either the Seymor Duncan Quarter Pounder (staggered) or DiMarzio FS-1. Can't find much wrong with the other two stock PUs.



    3) What are the essential budget effective/alternative Edge-tone components for effects?

    Lyle: I recuse myself to a degree here, as I make effects and will not promote them in the FAQ. But for early U2, the DMM would be hard to beat (I recommend the recent versions with true bypass, as the older versions screw up the bypassed sound). For UF and later, the DD-20 is the best budget choice for a delay pedal.

    Mick: Hmm… a lot. It depends on what you think your ears think is good. I like a TS9 and or SD1, a Boss dd20 (Giga-Delay), a Korg A3, maybe a Korg SDD 2000, Line 6 Pod (getting cheaper)”

    Punx: at the core of most of Edge's trademark tones is the Mod Delay - so I'd cover that first. I swear by the (Electro Harmonix Deluxe Memory Man but I can understand that people like memory banks, Tap tempo and/or MS readouts. Since (Korg) SDD3000’s are “crazy expensive”, I'd recommend the Boss DD20 (Giga-Delay).

    Also a great alternative to the SDD3k is the Roland SDE1000 Digital Rack Delay. Swear by them.

    After that I'd say, MXR Dyna-Comp (vintage only!) for 80s Edge and the Verbzilla is a funky little pedal that gives you Edge's amazing shimmer in a compact box.

    SD1 or TS9 would be on my shopping list too – personally I'd tend to the SD1. But that's a matter of taste. The SD1 is a “-in-a-Box” (to borrow an expression).

    But if money is a serious issue, I must say the super cheap Behringer stomp boxes are not to laugh at! They are essentially clones of the famous originals. Their Dyna-Comp clone (compressor) is definitely better than Dunlop’s own attempt which frankly ... sucks.


    4) What are good alternative amps to a vintage AC30?

    Lyle: AC30 Custom Classic, Matchless DC30, Dr Z Maz series, Divided by 13, 65 Amps London. All depends on your budget. The CC is a better amp than the TB/TBX series, hard as it is for many to believe. The Vox Valvetronix AD120, AD60, and AD30 should also be considered for those on a budget - especially used, these SS amps are steals and do a very good AC30 sound for the price. The Line 6 combos may be good choices as well, though I have not used them. Worth considering if budget is tight and you need an amp that can also be very quiet. If they are based on the POD, then they won't sound as good as the Vox AD series, but should be reasonable.

    Mick: “a Vintage I would say either the present day CC models or if you want to go small, An Ampeg Jet or RI although I feel the RI ac30s should be modified to ease down the midrange.

    Only issue I see is a lot of people are happy going 50% of the way or they settle for a tone whereas someone else would think it’s not even close. General speaking the best pedal delay in an Edge context to me is the DD20. A lot like the Nova but I think its junk in relation to Edge tone.

    If it’s analog there are a ton from Memory Man to Memory Lane to Boss DM2’s. Each has its own + and - but in the end the dd20 wins for me. The same with the Stratocaster; as long as your happy with the feel, it stays in tune and has a balanced set of pups as to get a good quack-tone, I think your business.

    Edge Stratocasters are just probably stock with maybe a hotter bridge. Other than that it’s just a 70’s Stratocaster. The LP/Explorer replacements I haven’t much experience other than I’ve tried the `57 classics. They sound good, and the Seth Lovers. I like the Seth Lovers the best. The best Stratocaster pickups, thus far I’ve tried, are the Kinmans. But to be fair I haven’t tried that many. I found the Fralins to be thin. I didn’t like them.”

    Punx: The CC series is great. Other than that I'd not shop elsewhere, I'd get the real deal. You might want to look into AC15’s for various reasons (volume, being one).
  12. Originally posted by WojBhoy[..]
    Good stuff there Jeff, very impressed

    Tis the very reason why you're our first port of call when we have a technical question , i.e. you've searched and learnt a hell of a lot more than the rest of us!


    Thanks. It's a hobby and a labor of love. I will be adding more to all of the members areas in the near future. Today I am working on some of the information for ADAM. So by this evening there will be yet MORE stuff.

    I am presently working on the Gear by era overview bits. Should have lots of information in that section by this evening.
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