U2start.com | U2 & Guitar Gear: Q & A

anstratdubh1979

Originally posted by thechicken[..]

Why would they be mad if you said on the site how the things are used? You can have every single pedal and guitar Edge has, you can even play on his rig, and you won't sound like him. Every musician has a musical personality, impossible to copy. I can't understand why some people keep secret about their rigs, like that Audioslave guy. I think it is quite silly.

Tom Morello from Audioslave / Rage Against The Machine is not secretive about his rig. All of the guitar magazine articles that I have with him, state what he uses. He himself has said that anyone can spend an afternoon and figure out most of what he plays and what effects.

I don't think that Edge or Dallas have issues with fans making sites or talking about the gear used. They don't give out the settings and effects chains. They work hard on tone and I can respect that. What is on my site is some of the ingredients but not the recipe. I think that they'd be okay with that. But if I were posting direct settings and effects chains - that might be a different story.

anstratdubh1979

17 years

UPDATES and ADDED INORMATION to the EDGE portion of U2 Stage and Studio.

http://www.u2-stage-and-studio.com/edge/id10.html

Be sure to check some now and some later (as more will be going up throughout the day.

Cheers!

thechicken

17 years

Originally posted by anstratdubh1979[..]

Tom Morello from Audioslave / Rage Against The Machine is not secretive about his rig. All of the guitar magazine articles that I have with him, state what he uses. He himself has said that anyone can spend an afternoon and figure out most of what he plays and what effects.

I don't think that Edge or Dallas have issues with fans making sites or talking about the gear used. They don't give out the settings and effects chains. They work hard on tone and I can respect that. What is on my site is some of the ingredients but not the recipe. I think that they'd be okay with that. But if I were posting direct settings and effects chains - that might be a different story.

Tim Commerford, the bass player is quite touchy about his rig.

anstratdubh1979

17 years

Originally posted by thechicken[..]

Tim Commerford, the bass player is quite touchy about his rig.

Which is weird as he doesn't use THAT much in the way of effects. There is a wah, a whammy (I think), some kind of distortion (a big muff, I think), and a chorus pedal... Whatever the case, it's hardly a Dave Gilmour or The Edge rack!

thechicken

17 years

Originally posted by anstratdubh1979[..]

Which is weird as he doesn't use THAT much in the way of effects. There is a wah, a whammy (I think), some kind of distortion (a big muff, I think), and a chorus pedal... Whatever the case, it's hardly a Dave Gilmour or The Edge rack!

Yeah but the rewinds the pick ups himself, made new solderings on the amplifiers, makes his own distorion pedals and probably a lot other stuff that he keeps undercover. He does have an awesome sound though.

anstratdubh1979

17 years

Originally posted by thechicken[..]

Yeah but the rewinds the pick ups himself, made new solderings on the amplifiers, makes his own distorion pedals and probably a lot other stuff that he keeps undercover. He does have an awesome sound though.

His right to keep it secret if he wants - whether that "he" is David Gilmour to The Edge to Eddie Van Halen.

All mentioned will talk about specific 'bits' of equipment. But it isn't like Dallas or Edge will tell you the exact setting and chain for "Gone" or "Elevation" or whatever.

That said, with good ears and a lot of smart fellows, many on U2 Recording yahoo group have figured out how to acheive a great number of The Edge's tones with the same gear as The Edge and with alternate gear too.

thechicken

17 years

Originally posted by anstratdubh1979[..]

His right to keep it secret if he wants - whether that "he" is David Gilmour to The Edge to Eddie Van Halen.

All mentioned will talk about specific 'bits' of equipment. But it isn't like Dallas or Edge will tell you the exact setting and chain for "Gone" or "Elevation" or whatever.

That said, with good ears and a lot of smart fellows, many on U2 Recording yahoo group have figured out how to acheive a great number of The Edge's tones with the same gear as The Edge and with alternate gear too.

I've seen some techs talk about specific settings and chains. Anyway, if you have the exact same equipment, it is just a matter of time until you can make it sound like the "original tone".

anstratdubh1979

17 years

Originally posted by thechicken[..]

I've seen some techs talk about specific settings and chains. Anyway, if you have the exact same equipment, it is just a matter of time until you can make it sound like the "original tone".

Some techs will mention an effect or so of what might have been used. Some might mention some recording technique used while recording. But most 'techs' like most crews for any band sign "confidentiality agreements". With that, they are limited as to what they can divulge about the band.

Dallas will own up to giving a delay time, what guitar was used... he might even mention an effect... but if you are looking for what guitar with what settings > what effects - in what order with what settings > what amps used and with what settings: He isn't going to give that out. He'd mentioned that some guitarist from prominent bands have approached with notepads asking: "So how does he get THIS sound". And he can't and won't tell.

Sure, like I mentioned with many on U2 Recording Group... many have found ways to obtain similar if not spot on tones for U2 songs. And in some cases, with alternate gear. One great piece of gear being used by many on the U2 Rec List is the Fractal Audio AxeFX. One can get a LOT of Edge tone outta that thing. I've heard it, when I've seen LA's The Joshua Tree play.

So it isnt' that the tones can't be figured out. And Dallas or the Edge may give an ingredient but you'll have to figure out the recipe on your own - they are not going to give it up.

And considering the time and effort they put into creating the different tones used... it is well within their right to NOT tell.

anstratdubh1979

17 years

The Explorer may be Edge best known guitar, even though it's not been his main guitar for many many years. In fact, other than UltraViolet, it was not used on the ZOO tours and it sat out all of PopMart. Even now, it get a song or two per night. It's distinctive shape being one thing that stands out in most fans minds.

For Adam, one that stands out is the yellow Auerswald. Auerswald is the German luthier that makes all of the odd shape guitars for Prince. Interestingly enough, most fans remember this bass, even though it was used ONLY during PopMart. Here's some pictures of Adam and his A. Clayton Custom.

thechicken

17 years

Originally posted by anstratdubh1979The Explorer may be Edge best known guitar, even though it's not been his main guitar for many many years. In fact, other than UltraViolet, it was not used on the ZOO tours and it sat out all of PopMart. Even now, it get a song or two per night. It's distinctive shape being one thing that stands out in most fans minds.

For Adam, one that stands out is the yellow Auerswald. Auerswald is the German luthier that makes all of the odd shape guitars for Prince. Interestingly enough, most fans remember this bass, even though it was used ONLY during PopMart. Here's some pictures of Adam and his A. Clayton Custom.

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He could use this again...even if only on POP songs. Anyway, they became so rare these days.

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