1. Originally posted by anstratdubh1979[..]

    No worries... save your money, say your prayers and don't vote for McCain and you too (U2) can obtain a better quality guitar.


    HAHAHA. "Don't vote for McCain" hahaha. But yea totally. They're good starter guitars, but eventually you will want to upgrade it.
  2. Originally posted by WojBhoy[..]
    Well, one could say that I guess lol. What wit...
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    Dude, everyone starts out with a basic guitar, Squiers are (From what I hear) good starter guitars - once you start getting good, that's probably when you wanna start spreading your wings and looking for a bit more quality


    Not everybody starts with a 'basic guitar'. But I'm a guitar snob.

    My first guitar was a fireglo Rickenbacker 330 6-string. Actually, I have great bandmates that went in on it and bought it for my birthday. Back when Rics were $1100.00 instead of $1800-$2000.

    I learned borrowing bandmates guitars... so I was fortunate enough to play good guitars and learn what is good and what isnt'... so when I later went to buy guitars for myself... I knew if the folks at the Guitar Center were just trying to lead me to the $400 easy sale for a shite guitar or not.

    First time I went to buy a guitar, my Taylor... the salesman tried to talk me into something else. He said well "for your skill level"... (fecker!) I said I may not have SKILLS yet but I have TASTE! (beaming proudly)
  3. Originally posted by anstratdubh1979[..]No worries... save your money, say your prayers and don't vote for McCain and you too (U2) can obtain a better quality guitar.

    I respectfully disagree that Squiers are good for starters but, if it works for you in the short run... it's better than no guitar at all.

    You can also upgrade the tuners and pickups and that will help... and be sure that it's professionally set up - action is not to high or too low (buzzing is bad). The fretwork on Squiers in notoriously bad so have them dress the frets too... a lil money into your Squier and it can sound and play better.

    Buzzing is bad lol...oh so true! And yeah, I was more referring to "in the short run" rather than longterm. Thing is, it depends on your outlook.
    Originally posted by anstratdubh1979[..]

    Not everybody starts with a 'basic guitar'. But I'm a guitar snob.

    My first guitar was a fireglo Rickenbacker 330 6-string. Actually, I have great bandmates that went in on it and bought it for my birthday. Back when Rics were $1100.00 instead of $1800-$2000.

    I learned borrowing bandmates guitars... so I was fortunate enough to play good guitars and learn what is good and what isnt'... so when I later went to buy guitars for myself... I knew if the folks at the Guitar Center were just trying to lead me to the $400 easy sale for a shite guitar or not.

    First time I went to buy a guitar, my Taylor... the salesman tried to talk me into something else. He said well "for your skill level"... (fecker!) I said I may not have SKILLS yet but I have TASTE! (beaming proudly)

    Sorry, that was a bit of a sweeping comment...

    A lot of people I know who play guitars started off with Squiers, tis what I was drawing upon. That said, I didn't though lol...my first guitar (which I still have, obviously) was a Ridgewood Strat. which is no Fender but is still pretty good for starters. Hell, I play Streets and The Fly on it most of the time and with a bit of tweaking, it sounds fine.
  4. My buddy Luis has a 1980's Made is US Squier. It was made decently. He just called and I was telling him about this 'conversation' here about Squiers. He said say: Pre-189 Squiers are hit and miss after that... buyer beware.

    Squier info:
    As follows is an approximate method in which Squier dates the serial numbers of manufactured instruments.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Squier#Original_models
  5. Originally posted by anstratdubh1979[..]

    Not everybody starts with a 'basic guitar'. But I'm a guitar snob.

    My first guitar was a fireglo Rickenbacker 330 6-string. Actually, I have great bandmates that went in on it and bought it for my birthday. Back when Rics were $1100.00 instead of $1800-$2000.

    I learned borrowing bandmates guitars... so I was fortunate enough to play good guitars and learn what is good and what isnt'... so when I later went to buy guitars for myself... I knew if the folks at the Guitar Center were just trying to lead me to the $400 easy sale for a shite guitar or not.

    First time I went to buy a guitar, my Taylor... the salesman tried to talk me into something else. He said well "for your skill level"... (fecker!) I said I may not have SKILLS yet but I have TASTE! (beaming proudly)


    Lucky bastard. Started with a Ricky. Feckin lucky!!!
  6. Originally posted by RattleandHum1988[..]

    Lucky bastard. Started with a Ricky. Feckin lucky!!!


    Lucky except it was sadly stolen! But as the grace of my friends should be... they replaced it. Hence, the burgundy-glo 330 6-string
  7. Originally posted by anstratdubh1979[..]

    Lucky except it was sadly stolen! But as the grace of my friends should be... they replaced it. Hence, the burgundy-glo 330 6-string


    That's cool man. I wish I had friends that would buy me a really expensive guitar haha. I really want a 12 string Rick. That is one of my dream guitars. Why do they have to be so much though? It's ridiculous.
  8. Originally posted by RattleandHum1988[..]

    That's cool man. I wish I had friends that would buy me a really expensive guitar haha. I really want a 12 string Rick. That is one of my dream guitars. Why do they have to be so much though? It's ridiculous.


    They are so expensive for a few reasons.

    1) Still American made. And wages here are more than the Squier made in Indonesia or Korea.

    2) As the economy is not great, they have a smaller staff and production is slower. Slower production puts a string on supply and demand = pricier.

    I remember when Ric 6's were $1199.00 and 12's were $1299.00; for what seemed the longest time. All the sudden... Ric 6's are in the $1500.00-$1800.00 and 12's are running $1800.00-$2200.00

    That said, my 2002 burgundy was purchased... 330VP (with vintage pickups like Edge's) in burgundyglo finish... WITH case... and shipping included... to my door for $950.00 !!! Quite the deal. And after I got it, my friends said - "Cool, we'll reimburse you as the fireglo was "nicked"." So I got a good deal and was reimbursed. Can't beat that.

    Check www.pickofthericks.com (hint hint) Good deals on Rickenbacker, Gretsch and Vox can be found. (or at least used to be... hopefully still are... I've not went to the sight in a bit)
  9. Originally posted by WojBhoy


    Dude, everyone starts out with a basic guitar, Squiers are (From what I hear) good starter guitars - once you start getting good, that's probably when you wanna start spreading your wings and looking for a bit more quality

    I know, but I wanna upgrade now! I want all of the stuff you guys have!

    Originally posted by anstratdubh1979[..]

    No worries... save your money, say your prayers and don't vote for McCain and you too (U2) can obtain a better quality guitar.

    I respectfully disagree that Squiers are good for starters but, if it works for you in the short run... it's better than no guitar at all.

    You can also upgrade the tuners and pickups and that will help... and be sure that it's professionally set up - action is not to high or too low (buzzing is bad). The fretwork on Squiers in notoriously bad so have them dress the frets too... a lil money into your Squier and it can sound and play better.


    lol.... I'm a democrat (and too young to vote lol) I'm saving too $$$
    Originally posted by RattleandHum1988[..]

    HAHAHA. "Don't vote for McCain" hahaha. But yea totally. They're good starter guitars, but eventually you will want to upgrade it.


    I wanna upgrade now lol......
  10. Originally posted by U2Nick[..]
    I know, but I wanna upgrade now! I want all of the stuff you guys have!

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    lol.... I'm a democrat (and too young to vote lol) I'm saving too $$$
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    I wanna upgrade now lol......


    It's good to want things - it builds character. =O)

    Your time will come... for voting and upgrading your gear.
  11. Originally posted by anstratdubh1979[..]

    It's good to want things - it builds character. =O)

    Your time will come... for voting and upgrading your gear.


    lol..... I have a job at the office where my mom works. Been saving every penny. I also have my b-day money saved with it $$$
  12. Originally posted by U2Nick[..]

    lol..... I have a job at the office where my mom works. Been saving every penny. I also have my b-day money saved with it $$$


    What are you going to upgrade first? Amp or guitar? ( don't start getting effects and such until you get a good guitar and amp. Unless it's delay, which is crucial to playing U2)