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  1. Originally posted by ade:[..]

    he's forgotten it - i don't think he'd know a good setlist if it hit him on the head at the moment.

    and as for anyone being at a concert who doesn't know my love will not let you down that just shows the audiences he's playing to. People who just want to say they've seen him and only know the big hits.

    I don't know by heart (aka can't recite the lyrics instantly like I do with U2, or sometimes even don't know the song at all) many of the songs he usually plays, but I still consider myself a fan. Not a die-hard fan like you guys but not a casual fan who knows The Rising and Born In The USA. Should I punish myself? Should I refrain of going to his concerts just because I won't know 3 or 4 of the songs? ...
  2. Re-writing of the post above: there aren't enough hard-die fans to fill stadiums all over the world. A huge percent (I'd say over a 75% by average) of the audiences, whether it's Bruce, Metallica, U2 or Pearl Jam playing, are composed of fans with different degrees of fandom, from the casual who's there just for the hits, to the snob who's there just for the sake of saying he's been there, to the crazy guy who's attended 85 shows of the same artist. But all of them have the same right to be there and the same right to enjoy the songs, all of them, or the few of them they want to enjoy. The song that makes me happy can bore you to tears, and the song that makes you cry of joy might be completely unknown to me. SO WHAT?

  3. from what perspective?
    sound?
    "cold" setlist?
    "rarities"
    fun in listening?
    plot of the concert?
    the one to take to the classic desert island?
    ..?
  4. Originally posted by LikeASong:[..]

    I don't know by heart (aka can't recite the lyrics instantly like I do with U2, or sometimes even don't know the song at all) many of the songs he usually plays, but I still consider myself a fan. Not a die-hard fan like you guys but not a casual fan who knows The Rising and Born In The USA. Should I punish myself? Should I refrain of going to his concerts just because I won't know 3 or 4 of the songs? ...

    I agree with what ade is saying. In my four Bruce concerts this tour there were people there lining up, who got into roughly the 3rd-4th row of the pit, who didn't know Racing in the Streets or Land of Hope and Dreams. Even Blinded by the Light, If I Should Fall Behind and Because the Night were unknown by a number of people around me, and I was never further back than 2nd row. Barely anyone around me knew Incident or Jackson Cage when they came out. I have no issue with those people being there at the show - just get out of the pit.
  5. Originally posted by LikeASong:[..]

    I don't know by heart (aka can't recite the lyrics instantly like I do with U2, or sometimes even don't know the song at all) many of the songs he usually plays, but I still consider myself a fan. Not a die-hard fan like you guys but not a casual fan who knows The Rising and Born In The USA. Should I punish myself? Should I refrain of going to his concerts just because I won't know 3 or 4 of the songs? ...

    why my opinion should obviously trouble you so much is confusing me. It is what it is, my opinion, it counts for nothing, it shouldn't stop anyone enjoying the concerts, enjoying the set lists and i'm under no illusions as to what bruce would think. His exact words would be fuck off.
  6. Originally posted by clover68:[..]

    from what perspective?
    sound?
    "cold" setlist?
    "rarities"
    fun in listening?
    plot of the concert?
    the one to take to the classic desert island?
    ..?

    Sorry, from the audio/sound perspective..
  7. Can't agree with you, dylbagz. I've had that same experience at a U2 concert (being almost the only one who knew Mercy, Spanish Eyes, The Unforgettable Fire, Ultraviolet) and I didn't feel like the people who didn't know them (some of them were first row, I was 2nd) should be behind me. I just felt luckier than them, but I didn't have a single negative feeling towards them.

    Ade, I'm not attacking your opinion or taking it personally, I'd write the same if it was clover or any other saying it I'm just discussing your opinion with another opinion, no big deal!
  8. Why would you go to the front row of a concert if you aren't a diehard? That's honestly a little beyond me. I mean, not knowing Ultraviolet or The Unforgettable Fire in the front row of a U2 concert? That's a little embarrassing. The band don't want that. They want a good atmosphere and a pumped up crowd who are into every song. There is no reason why any band would want people in the front rows of a show to not know 90% of the songs they play.
  9. Originally posted by ade:[..]

    why my opinion should obviously trouble you so much is confusing me. It is what it is, my opinion, it counts for nothing, it shouldn't stop anyone enjoying the concerts, enjoying the set lists and i'm under no illusions as to what bruce would think. His exact words would be fuck off.

    +1 haha

  10. hard to say which ones i named is the best .. they sound quite similar to my ear ... maybe Alysha (Milano) is slightly better
  11. Originally posted by dylbagz:Why would you go to the front row of a concert if you aren't a diehard? That's honestly a little beyond me. I mean, not knowing Ultraviolet or The Unforgettable Fire in the front row of a U2 concert? That's a little embarrassing. The band don't want that. They want a good atmosphere and a pumped up crowd who are into every song. There is no reason why any band would want people in the front rows of a show to not know 90% of the songs they play.

    That last sentence is a bit extreme... I'm talking about not knowing 3 out of 23 (in the case of that U2 shows I'm talking about), or not knowing 5 out of 30 (the average of songs I don't know or can't recite on Bruce setlists). It's more like a 10-15% than a 90%. Not knowing a 90% of the songs from a show should ban you from entering the venue

    And I don't know how posers and snobs behave in other places, but here in Spain the "I've been there, look at my 45789 crap photos from the first row" is a powerful and sadly common thing to say.

    Also, just finishing... Bruce's discography is so extense (16 or 17 studio albums plus lots of compilations including more unreleased songs) that I myself find it quite hard to dive into it all - and then again I consider myself a fan. So I can perfectly understand how that U2 fans should feel regarding Mercy (never released) or Spanish Eyes (a b-side played less than 20 times worldwide since it was written).
  12. The Springsteen concert in Nijmegen was the first Springsteen show for my girlfriend, she does not know most of the songs, but it was the best concert she has ever seen and a total moment she would never forget.
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