1. Originally posted by KieranU2:Difference is that U2's show is theatrically based whereas Springsteen, PJ, The Cure, etc. base their shows on length and variety. Two completely different shows. Yes, it is disappointing that U2 don't change up their set but seeing a show that is in your face and conceptual is a different experience.

    True , but this was not the case at all back in the 1980s. U2 played a "straight up rock show" . There was no "concept" . No "gimmicks" . It was about the music . Boy, October , War (Red Rocks), UF '85, JT '87 (Paris '87) , Lovetown '89-'90 etc . This was when they were at their best . IMO of course .

    I agree with Sergio , this has been debated over and over . No need to compare bands .

    Bruce is superior live , just my opinion .


    Back to Bruce ........Im glad he just goes out on stage , and plays 3 + hours of in your face live music . No gimmicks or concepts . Never has been , and never will about anything other then the music .
  2. +1
  3. +167 .. 30 concerts .. and counting ...
  4. Springsteen is unique in music. But don't forget the E Streetband.

    And Springsteen started changing setlist about 2008. Before his setlist where also quit static.

    The U2 shows are more fixed concepts. With not much space to vary. At the beginning when all is new this is interesting. But after a while it is boring. You know the songs. Nothing wrong with concept shows but more changing setlist would be welcome.

  5. No problem!

    I'guess you are right, U2 seems to be forgotten that their job is being a musician.
  6. this goes all and only to one man here

    .. the same old story same old act ..
  7. Beautiful Lovely song.
  8. Originally posted by EDDMB:[..]

    Agreed . U2 have always played it safe as far as shows . Same set gig after gig . Sure they might play a different tune here and there . Big deal . The 2005 Vertigo tour was a favorite of mine, simply because they actually mixed it up for once and played arenas . Not big over the top shows like Zoo TV , PoP and 360. Same exact sets each and every night for those Las Vegas extravaganza . The encores were different almost every night and they used 3 different openers (L&P,COBL and Vertigo)

    Bruce is 64 and is still amazing . My show last week was fantastic .

    Bruce Pearl Jam and DMB always mix up their sets . On 2 night stands in the same city , DMB will play 2 completely different sets.

    U2 , not at all .

    Which is amazing if you're a diehard fan, but a large portion of the crowd arent, casuals go because they expect to hear the well-known songs that the die-hards have grown sick of.

    The 1st time i saw Pearl Jam (i was a casual fan back then), they hardly played any of their mainstream hits, instead they pulled out songs they hadn't played live in years. The friend i went (PJ diehard) thought the set-list was amazing, i thought it was shit, and left the show pissed off.

    If U2 all of a sudden dropped Vertigo, BD, Pride, etc in favor of rarely played live songs, I'd love it, cuz I, like most on this site, am a diehard and know their whole discography. But i think most of the crowd (casuals) would leave a little disappointed.
  9. or maybe they discover there's something else than the shit of Vertigo

    still it's not an excuse to be plaster
    Born To Run, Dancing In The Dark are always played, for example eh
    (same goes for PJ)
  10. Originally posted by Andrew_C:[..]

    Which is amazing if you're a diehard fan, but a large portion of the crowd arent, casuals go because they expect to hear the well-known songs that the die-hards have grown sick of.

    The 1st time i saw Pearl Jam (i was a casual fan back then), they hardly played any of their mainstream hits, instead they pulled out songs they hadn't played live in years. The friend i went (PJ diehard) thought the set-list was amazing, i thought it was shit, and left the show pissed off.

    If U2 all of a sudden dropped Vertigo, BD, Pride, etc in favor of rarely played live songs, I'd love it, cuz I, like most on this site, am a diehard and know their whole discography. But i think most of the crowd (casuals) would leave a little disappointed.

    ^ another argument repeated to death, and very truly so. Well spoken. I've stated several times in the PJ thread that I would be pissed (as you were) if I went to a show and they played 25 rarities plus Even Flow and YLB. The same applies to the casual fan that comes to a U2 show expecting to hear Streets, Pride, COBL, Desire, Elevation... and probably not White As Snow, Your Blue Room, Drowning Man, Exit and Promenade. And back on topic, I would probably be pissed if I went to another Bruce show and got a 30 songs set with 8 covers and 20 rarities which I don't know; if I want to discover obscure songs from anyone's catalogue, I go to Youtube or buy a rarities album - but I go to a concert to enjoy myself, to lose my voice and to dance and sing along to songs I know and mean something to me. If I want to attend a concert full of songs I don't know just for the sake of enjoying some unknown music, there's a pub around the corner that features rare bands every Thursday and Saturday.