1. Originally posted by LikeASong:I can understand that a fan can be pissed, and I agree that cancelling a concert is a pretty drastic move, but I heartfully agree with Bruce (and Dieder fwiw) on this. We're in 2016 for God's sake, laws are supposed to evolve and go forward together with people's thinking, not the other way round. And if cancelling a concert, or ten concerts, or a hundred concerts, make people realize this, then go ahead Boss. And if some of your fanbase don't understand that, then shame on them. Thank God, it's not only rock and roll, and we like it that way.
    "laws are supposed to evolve and go forward together with people's thinking"

    That is a beautiful theory. It should be this way indeed. I live in the EU and can't recall any new or changed law that would fit this description. It is all about more and more directives, restrictions, obstacles in normal life procedures.

    I come from a formal socialistic country and I vividly remember that beautiful time 26 years ago when the Berlin wall came down, we felt free and everything seemed possible. And it actually felt like that for some years. People really felt free, a lot of people were truly eager to work. It is funny to look at how things have changed in about 20 years. Everything is so awfully complex, there are laws, directives, norms and I don't know what everywhere you look, most of them make absolutely no sence. People are generally very angry (which is most obvious if you drive a car and see all the rudeness around - people who don't seem to care whether they kill themselves and people around are no exceptions), nobody wants to work, just wants more and more money for nothing. If one is a person who is fine with being stuck in a dead-end-job, comes home, turns on his telly, watches the soap operas and news to know what to think, then he is fine. If one has any other ambitions he only faces more and more obstacles and is punished for any achievement he might accomplish. When I look at our government, there are people who, if we were still a socialistic country, would all be in the communist party (and many many of them actually were - yes, they are still in the government 26 years later). And those people will really just laugh at some rock concert being cancelled.

    I know, I write about our country and we actually discuss US, but I believe it is the same kind of peole trying to get to the politics and get power no matter what, no matter what regime. Still the same people. I hate it, but of course have no idea what to do with it.
  2. Originally posted by EDDMB:[..]
    I did not have tickets to this show . I went to Tampa to see Pearl Jam

    My point was I felt he could have protested in a better way is all I was saying . Maybe mention it a few times during the gig ?

    He canceled 48 hrs before the show . I felt he screwed the fans

    I agree to disagree as well .... all good .
    Mentioning it during some boring speeches -about which 90% of the audience doesnt care about- won't turn people's heads nor make a strong enough point. This issue deserves more dramatic action, kudos to the Boss and Bryan Adams for taking a step forward.

    I'm only really really sorry about those who were travelling to the cancelled show and have lost flights and hotels money.
  3. Didn't realise there was to be 2 Croke shows.
  4. And both sold out instantly
  5. Yes try Gerard Especially for the first
  6. I may have a look.
  7. 26th july Trondheim
    28th july Oslo
    31th july Zurich
  8. buon compleanno to the man that brings the power night after night after night after night the mighty, Mighty Max Weinberg .. 65
  9. Originally posted by LikeASong:I can understand that a fan can be pissed, and I agree that cancelling a concert is a pretty drastic move, but I heartfully agree with Bruce (and Dieder fwiw) on this. We're in 2016 for God's sake, laws are supposed to evolve and go forward together with people's thinking, not the other way round. And if cancelling a concert, or ten concerts, or a hundred concerts, make people realize this, then go ahead Boss. And if some of your fanbase don't understand that, then shame on them. Thank God, it's not only rock and roll, and we like it that way.




    The bathroom rule is a touchy one with me. While I am completely against discrimination, I don't think this falls within the parameters. I think a business, as long as it provides facilities, should be able to keep them as they like. Government should not interfere, and by the same means, if you are provided with a restroom to relieve yourself, you should not be able to claim discrimination. You were not refused the right to relieve yourself. That is how all these things end up getting so much attention in the media (and more often than not, blown out of proportion...and, I' not saying other parts of this North Carolina legislation isn't backwards ass, I only speak for the bathroom) If I feel a business discriminates against me, I don't give them my business and I spread the word to my friends... End of story. As someone who lives in the south (Georgia, who by the way just rejected the "religious freedom" bill) I see both sides to the story. On one side, it is reprehensible to discriminate based on someones race, creed or orientation... on the other hand, discrimination is a 2-way street. Can't it be said that the parent of a child who would rather not have to be in the situation of explaining to their 4 year old why that lady stands up to me... can't they feel discriminated against also. There's a fine line. A very fine line... And much hypocrisy on both sides. All I'm saying... Oh except, how would you be feeling if you flew from Spain to see the Boss in the States to find out once you landed that he cancelled?

    U2 would use this as a platform like they did in Arizona in 1987. They would play the show and use it as a platform to lash out at the injustice of the State. That's how you win battles, that's how you get things done. You show up and speak out... And you rally your audience to speak out as well...