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  1. Originally posted by vanquish:[..]

    Wait a minute, you think Crumbs From Your Table was the best song from HTDAAB?

    I thought that it was easily the worst (or one step closer), Crumbs is dad rock right there.


    And again I urge you to find another topic


  2. Try Borders. I bought one there before. Its kinda expensive just because of shipping fees: probably around $10-11.


  3. How are they completely irrelevant, we have glimpses of songs (perhaps even complete songs) from the new album. More useful than the two sentences about a songfrom the Q articles in my book.

  4. Originally posted by vanquish:[..]

    How are they completely irrelevant, we have glimpses of songs (perhaps even complete songs) from the new album. More useful than the two sentences about a songfrom the Q articles in my book.


    Just like Salome wasn't AB. These could be very rough drafts. But I've made a point of not listening to them.


  5. Of course I haven't heard the album, although I wish I did so I could tell ya guys.

    Really though, don't the words atmospheric and darkness come to mind when you read the descriptions?


  6. With regards to being similar to the Salome tapes, they're not, apparent if you've actually listened to them. They are the end product of a full production process, not jam sessions on tape.

    Originally posted by stj0691:So I've read over all 17 pages (25 posts per page or so)

    U2 are releasing an album, supposedly to be their best ever. It's been said it's keeping with the spirit of Achtung Baby, which to me means a lot of things. Lyrically dark? Dark sounding? A complete change from what we're used to (presumably HTDAAB).

    Here's another thought:
    HTDAAB was a return to rock's roots and sounds from today, and ATYCLB went back to Joshua Tree-esque rock.

    FOR THIS TO WORK, FOLLOW

    The year is 1990, you are a U2 fan. You just saw them in Rotterdam. As you retreat to your home, you wonder, what will the next album be like? You are used to rock 'n' roll, and U2 being the masters of the 80s. You're used to guitars, drums, bass guitars, and synths that don't seem odd. Then the salome tapes emerge. The first word to come to mind? Most likely, 'odd', 'different', or 'weird'. The album then comes out and blows you away. From the opening industrial echo of Zoo Station to the closing crescendo of Love Is Blindness. You are stunned U2 would betray you and the 80s like that. However, you connect with the music since it has the sonic U2 signature upon it's very notes. - THE WORLD WENT WEIRD

    Fast forward 17 years. To me 17 years means a lot too, because I was lucky enough to be born in the same year Achtung came out. Anyways, we are '00s fans' and U2 want to follow the spirit of Achtung. What exactly is the spirit of Achtung? Being different, because it's what U2 does best. They want to, once again, re-define their name. Some of the track names seem atmospheric (Magnificent, Momement of Surrender, No Line on the Horizon, Every Breaking Wave, Breathe, and Winter) while some remind me of the dark images of Achtung (Get on Your Boots, Unknown Caller, No Line on the Horizon [2nd Take], and Cedars of Lebanon). And then there are tracks that seem like they are from the 60s brought to present day (Stand Up and Crazy Tonight). How do you bridge atmosphere, darkness, and some 60s sounds? The bridge between those my friends, is the key to what the new album has in store. - SUPERNOVA

    Also, 'directions' as described in 'Unknown Caller' is something finite while the atmospheric songs seem infinite. An album against itself? Contradictory wouldn't you say?

    I've gone and rambled again, time to hide behind the trenches once more.

    And how would one get a Q mag in the States?

    Peace,
    Steve


    Glad to see someone actually reads the thread befored diving in and posting redundant info and statements, like others have had on this thread.

    While I would like a lyrically dark record in the vein of AB, Pop. I very much doubt so, if you have listened to the beach clips, the songwriting is very much Bomb/ATYCLB in tone albeit with more innovative with more radical rhythm/song structures. It definitely is no way near as dark as AB, nor does it have the same 'knowing sarcasm' of songs like Zoo Station, The Fly etc.

    'Also, 'directions' as described in 'Unknown Caller' is something finite while the atmospheric songs seem infinite. An album against itself? Contradictory wouldn't you say? '

    I don't get this statement? what directions, the phone messages? I think you're reading too much into the song and the album there.

    Anyway where we were before all the 'HTDAAB is bad' talk erupted (Thanks for curbing it Gerard) was discussing what was the last beach clip.
  7. Originally posted by vanquish:[..]

    With regards to being similar to the Salome tapes, they're not, apparent if you've actually listened to them. They are the end product of a full production process, not jam sessions on tape.




    "End product"?? How do you know? I'm really intrigued now. How do you know if you haven't heard the new album?
  8. Originally posted by vanquish:[..]

    With regards to being similar to the Salome tapes, they're not, apparent if you've actually listened to them. They are the end product of a full production process, not jam sessions on tape.

    [..]

    Glad to see someone actually reads the thread befored diving in and posting redundant info and statements, like others have had on this thread.

    While I would like a lyrically dark record in the vein of AB, Pop. I very much doubt so, if you have listened to the beach clips, the songwriting is very much Bomb/ATYCLB in tone albeit with more innovative with more radical rhythm/song structures. It definitely is no way near as dark as AB, nor does it have the same 'knowing sarcasm' of songs like Zoo Station, The Fly etc.

    'Also, 'directions' as described in 'Unknown Caller' is something finite while the atmospheric songs seem infinite. An album against itself? Contradictory wouldn't you say? '

    I don't get this statement? what directions, the phone messages? I think you're reading too much into the song and the album there.

    Anyway where we were before all the HTDAAB is bad talk erupted (Thanks for curbing Gerard) was discussing what was the last beach clip.



    Lyrics can be re-written, changed, etc. Just remember, the beach clips aren't the new album. They could be a hint to what we might get, and they also could not be. I will give a listen to the beach clips for fun, to see where you are going with this. Evidence can be argued against when the words 'not done' are used to describe an album.

    I changed my mind with 'UC', I see it as the opposite of the Fly's inspiration. Could be about a guy changing who he is for the better.


  9. Well again it would really be much easier if you listened to the clips, contrary to popular belief they don't spoil anything much.

    With regards to end product, you misunderstand me, I don't mean the end product of the entire NLOTH sessions that wrapped up in December etc. because obviously that is impossible.

    But an end product of a session, with full production/mixing done, ie in this case the products of the Fez session probably.

    They are not at all like the AB tapes, theres no stopping and starting, repetition or invention of lyrics to match the music, you can clearly hear the telltale Eno atmospherics in the background ie. evidence of studio production etc.

    But again listen for yourselves, perhaps in the dark, helps you focus better.
    http://rapidshare.com/files/177153145/Bens_Beach_clips_2008_eqd.zip.html

  11. You get used to it lol...



    This is the beauty of pre-album hype though eh? Everyone has their own ideas and assumptions before we've even had anything concrete. I may as well be in the same boat as you and Jeremy, 'cause I downloaded the beach clips but only listened once and can barely remember them, and thus have no intention of finding where they went or reacquainting myself with them.

    Could also be about some guy getting confused by a wrong number lol, how the hell are we to know one way or the other until we listen to the song?
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