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  1. We should use this topic as a thread to refrain from littering the rest of the NLOTH forums. So here we go...now I hope someone uses it!

    And discussion of other songs is okay in it too. So, to re-iterate:

    - studio tracks from the core albums only
    - standalone and notable B-sides are cool (Sweetest Thing, Lady With The Spinning Head, Electrical Storm, Window In The Skies, Always, Miss Sarajevo, Your Blue Room..)
    - no live stuff, because it's obviously not a new song
    - no semi or full instrumental tracks
    - no remixes, fake fruits or bootlegs unless they're notable ones (Salome)

    There we go. All done. And keep it friendly...don't threaten each other. And feel free to have an opinion - remember "Share your passion".
  2. I'm listening to Elvis Presley and America atm, just to see if we are talking about the same song.
    Cause I just hear Bono rambling on with nonsense lyrics, and it's six minutes of that as well. The best thing is the backing track..

    And I gave Every Breaking Wave as an example of what they might have left out, in favour of another song that wasn't as good. Like with Love Comes Tumbling and TUF, I wouldn't know how good it is, but the Q and RS descriptions were favourable.

    I hate modern music as well, for the most part, occasionally you get a decent song though.



    But that's the kind of U2 song I like. Completely unexpected and out-of-the-square.

    A lot of music that's come out in the last few years, consider what's wrong with it. The dancing looks like aerobics, the songs are overproduced and they call this 'music'?
  3. Uh oh, I don't like the sound of this thread, start flame wars, it will.


  4. I hope not flame wars. Passionate discussion about the songs only!
  5. Originally posted by drewhiggins:[..]
    A lot of music that's come out in the last few years, consider what's wrong with it. The dancing looks like aerobics, the songs are overproduced and they call this 'music'?


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    Again I hate most modern music, but let's not drag that into this thread, it's going to be bad enough as it is.



    See that's the problem, you like music based on how innovative or out there it is. I prefer things like melody, lyrics, rhythm, cohesion, execution etc. and innovation as well.

    To stop this descending in to chaos (and assuming the mods don't shut it down immediately) perhaps we need criteria? Eg. by songs we exclude instrumentals (or near instrumentals) from the discussion as they don't have lyrics and so aren't songs?
    Maybe we should exclude most B-sides (have only the well known ones), rarities and dance remixes etc.? And covers as well, since they aren't U2 material.
  6. Originally posted by vanquish:[..]

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    Again I hate most modern music, but let's not drag that into this thread, it's going to be bad enough as it is.

    [..]

    See that's the problem, you like music based on how innovative or out there it is. I prefer things like melody, lyrics, rhythm, cohesion, execution etc. and innovation as well.


    The more out-there it is, the better. Songs like Streets (plus the rest of JT), Bad, I Will Follow, Electric Co, Stories For Boys, Unforgettable Fire, A Sort of Homecoming, Miss Sarajevo, The Fly, Zoo Station, Love Is Blindness, Zooropa, Stay, Crumbs, City of Blinding Lights, Original of the Species, Mofo, Last Night on Earth, Peace on Earth, When I Look At The World...all those are favourites of mine.

    Looking at my collection right now, I can see albums nobody else seems to consider and some of the greatest albums of all time. School's Out, Born In The USA, The River, Born To Run, Back In Black, Off The Wall, Thriller, Dark Side of the Moon, Slippery When Wet, X&Y / Viva La Vida, A Bigger Bang...there you go. So I don't not like just out-there music, I like popular music too and critically aclaimed stuff as well.

    I like meaningful lyrics and cohesion and melody. As I've said before, it's all well and good to write a song, but don't execute it like crap.


    To stop this descending in to chaos (and assuming the mods don't shut it down immediately) perhaps we need criteria? Eg. by songs we exclude instrumentals (or near instrumentals) from the discussion as they don't have lyrics and so aren't songs?
    Maybe we should exclude most B-sides (have only the well known ones), rarities and dance remixes etc.? And covers as well, since they aren't U2 material.


    I say yes to that. Make it core tracks - and stop all other topics from being flooded. Good idea!

    I say allow songs like Unreleased and Rare, Mercy etc as most people on here would know about them as well as the remaster demos and outtakes.
  7. Originally posted by vanquish:
    Eg. by songs we exclude instrumentals (or near instrumentals) from the discussion as they don't have lyrics and so aren't songs?


    Songs without lyrics aren't songs?

    Originally posted by drewhiggins:

    Looking at my collection right now, I can see albums nobody else seems to consider and some of the greatest albums of all time. School's Out, Born In The USA, The River, Born To Run, Back In Black, Off The Wall, Thriller, Dark Side of the Moon, Slippery When Wet, X&Y / Viva La Vida, A Bigger Bang


    Seriously, a lot of people would consider these as great/classic albums. Not the best example for your "weird" taste
  8. Originally posted by yeah:[..]

    Songs without lyrics aren't songs?

    [..]

    Seriously, a lot of people would consider these as great/classic albums. Not the best example for your "weird" taste


    That's why I said a lot of people consider them as classics. Is Dark Side of the Moon not one of those? Or Thriller? What about Thick As A Brick? OK yeah, do you know of Alan Parsons?

    (I noticed I said "nobody else seems to consider"). That's where I stuffed up.

    Would some of his stuff not be considered some of the greatest works of the 20th century? It's weird and wonderful at the same time. Do I think Chinese Democracy will become a great album in due course? Yes. But it will take time.
  9. What about everyone listening to all the albums again and then write your own (short) review and ratings of every song, so we're done for ever?
  10. This might turn into a discussion on what constitutes 'out there', (Peace on Earth, COBL, OOTS are out there?) so I'll refrain from commenting on your choices.

    What do you mean by core tracks? Album tracks only and certain B-sides like LWTSS, Love Comes Tumbling, Party Girl. Major standalone songs like the Sweetest Thing, Window in the Skies and Electrical Storm are also fair game.

    I also think we should exclude all live versions of songs from the discussion, so songs are too be judged by their studio recordings only, makes it much simpler.

  11. Originally posted by vanquish:This might turn into a discussion on what constitutes 'out there', (Peace on Earth, COBL, OOTS are out there?) so I'll refrain from commenting on your choices.

    What do you mean by core tracks? Album tracks only and certain B-sides like LWTSS, Love Comes Tumbling, Party Girl. Major standalone songs like the Sweetest Thing, Window in the Skies and Electrical Storm are also fair game.

    I also think we should exclude all live versions of songs from the discussion, so songs are too be judged by their studio recordings only, makes it much simpler.


    Yes, that too. Alright forget the 'out-there' stuff, we'll keep it to a minimum. Otherwise this is gonna start a flame wars as you said with others (not anyone who's posted here yet).

    What about everyone listening to all the albums again and then write your own (short) review and ratings of every song, so we're done for ever?


    Please tell me you're kidding. But then we'll disagree on what was good and what was not, so the reviews become irrelevant.


  12. "A song is a musical composition. In the classical tradition, songs contain vocal parts that are performed,[citation needed] 'sung,' and feature words (lyrics), commonly accompanied by musical instruments."

    We stick to this definition (from Wikipedia) and so instrumentals aren't fair game.
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