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  1. Originally posted by vanquish:Also, the other problem with God not existing (and only the physical world around us existing).

    Is determinism, which basically means that no one has any control over their actions, and it is all predetermined.

    But I think you do have control. You have control over your life but once your dead, that's that

  2. Oh, Scientology is fucking insane, but what I'm saying is, they all are that crazy, we're just so used to them that we don't really notice it anymore
  3. Originally posted by katherine94:[..]
    Oh, Scientology is fucking insane, but what I'm saying is, they all are that crazy, we're just so used to them that we don't really notice it anymore



    I know... little green men coming in a spaceship is SciFi sh*t, not religion

  4. Xenu put us all here and had a giant circle of volcanoes and exploded us all out of them with H-Bombs


  5. Actually no, because if there is no 'soul', your consciousness (which determines what you think and do) is determined by all the electrical signals going around your brain.

    And in turn these electrical signals are determined by the interactions of the billions of atoms and molecules that make up your brain.

    Now we know from science that all these particles follow a set of rules, so that if you knew the initial state of the system, you could calculate what would happen anytime in the future.

    And so it would turn out that all your thoughts (and actions) were all predetermined before you were born, when your brain was developing.
  6. Originally posted by katherine94:[..]
    Oh, Scientology is fucking insane, but what I'm saying is, they all are that crazy, we're just so used to them that we don't really notice it anymore



    Scientology is insane, I mean the guy who founded it was a sci fi author and he even admitted that all the books he wrote (which they use as bibles) were fictitious.


  7. If that's what they believe, than that's what they believe. I'm not gonna be the one to tell them that they're wrong. I'm not saying that I necessarily am with it, but it's "religion".
  8. Originally posted by vanquish:[..]

    Actually no, because if there is no 'soul', your consciousness (which determines what you think and do) is determined by all the electrical signals going around your brain.

    And in turn these electrical signals are determined by the interactions of the billions of atoms and molecules that make up your brain.

    Now we know from science that all these particles follow a set of rules, so that if you knew the initial state of the system, you could calculate what would happen anytime in the future.

    And so it would turn out that all your thoughts (and actions) were all predetermined before you were born, when your brain was developing.

    But I never said anything about no souls, just no God. I think you're mixing up a humans' personality with higher powers that be
  9. Originally posted by U2Nick:[..]

    If that's what they believe, than that's what they believe. I'm not gonna be the one to tell them that they're wrong. I'm not saying that I necessarily am with it, but it's "religion".

    It's fine for them to believe that, but I can't stress it enough that it's not the only out of it's fucking mind religion
  10. Originally posted by katherine94:[..]
    But I never said anything about no souls, just no God. I think you're mixing up a humans' personality with higher powers that be


    So you believe in souls? Which are non-physical things?


  11. Exactly

    *falls asleep*:P G' night guys
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