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  1. Originally posted by bobplaysthedrums:Where's Drew?

    You said that MJ excelled in the 90's. I'm not a MJ fan so I don't know many song titles and album names. What was the albums that had Man In The Mirror and Black Or White because they are truly excellent songs.


    I'm right here.

    Dangerous has Black Or White and Bad has Man In The Mirror. Both albums followed each other (1987 - 1991). Invincible was his last album all the way back in 2001.


    I don't think on those (Bad, Thriller or Dangerous) he honestly showed the skills he did have. History has some incredible arrangements on it.


  3. Ah right. The stuff I enjoy a lot more comes from 1995 - 1997 and I don't think any of those have ever come out on compilation albums - kinda the 'lesser-known' stuff:







    The last one reminds me of a Prince song.
  4. Originally posted by drewhiggins:[..]



    I don't think on those (Bad, Thriller or Dangerous) he honestly showed the skills he did have. History has some incredible arrangements on it.


    I've justed looked it up on wikipedia. I know some of those newer songs on History and I think they are quite good. I don't know if the whole thing is good because apparently it's got The Girl Is Mine.
  5. Originally posted by bobplaysthedrums:[..]

    I've justed looked it up on wikipedia. I know some of those newer songs on History and I think they are quite good. I don't know if the whole thing is good because apparently it's got The Girl Is Mine.


    The Girl Is Mine sucks big-time.

    History has two discs - the first was the greatest hits and the second was the all-new songs. Though I'm not all that sure if a song recorded in 1988 (Come Together) qualifies as a new song when it already appeared on a single. Maybe he just couldn't be arsed doing another song and thought 14 was enough.

    History has some brilliant pieces of work and some utter crap. Then again, it doesn't have the one song that I felt like throwing up hearing and thought he was a real knob to have put it on there. The Lost Children from Invincible. Urghhhhhhhhhhhhh...creepy and just plain stupid.


    I might ask you as well given you're a big Prince fan - what's the best album for a beginner to start out with? I know the essential songs but not much else.
  6. I personally love the dueto with McCartney, specially the spoken part.


  7. Say Say Say is a way better song, for me at least. It would have worked better on OTW replacing that Girlfriend tripe. Not nearly as bad as this:

  8. Originally posted by drewhiggins:[..]

    The Girl Is Mine sucks big-time.

    History has two discs - the first was the greatest hits and the second was the all-new songs. Though I'm not all that sure if a song recorded in 1988 (Come Together) qualifies as a new song when it already appeared on a single. Maybe he just couldn't be arsed doing another song and thought 14 was enough.

    I might ask you as well given you're a big Prince fan - what's the best album for a beginner to start out with? I know the essential songs but not much else.


    I've heard that Come Together cover surprisingly.

    The best album for a beginner to start out is The Hits / The B-Sides. It includes most of his greatest hits up to 1992 plus fan favourite songs such as Adore and When You Were Mine. It contains some truly essential Prince songs that are only available on that release such as Pink Cashmere and How Come U Don't Call Me Anymore. Impressively, the b-sides disc is excellent and stands up well with the previous two discs. Another nice feature is the booklet that features a short biography written by his former manager and later the vice president of his (now extinct) record company Paisley Park Records. Although those notes are slightly dated when it talks about how Prince changed his named to a symbol.

    Some problems with the release is that most songs are in edited form. This isn't a good thing on songs like When Doves Cry and I Wanna Be Your Lover, where the album versions are much better. But some songs actually work better in their edited form, (Uptown is a lot more smoother and to the point then the dragged out album version, so is Alphabet Street but for some reason they always choose the album version for that song on Prince greatest hits collections) There are only a couple of filler tracks Pope and God, that later one is possibly his worst song.

    One thing you should realise is that Prince is a creepy man, especially back then, and a lot of songs are rather explicitly about sex. But you would know that instantly after looking at song titles like Head,Dirty Mind and I Love U In Me. If this is a bit much for you buy The Very Best Of Prince instead which is just the big hits, so it gives you less of an idea of what Prince is about.
  9. Originally posted by bobplaysthedrums:[..]

    I've heard that Come Together cover surprisingly.

    The best album for a beginner to start out is The Hits / The B-Sides. It includes most of his greatest hits up to 1992 plus fan favourite songs such as Adore and When You Were Mine. It contains some truly essential Prince songs that are only available on that release such as Pink Cashmere and How Come U Don't Call Me Anymore. Impressively, the b-sides disc is excellent and stands up well with the previous two discs. Another nice feature is the booklet that features a short biography written by his former manager and later the vice president of his (now extinct) record company Paisley Park Records. Although those notes are slightly dated when it talks about how Prince changed his named to a symbol.

    Some problems with the release is that most songs are in edited form. This isn't a good thing on songs like When Doves Cry and I Wanna Be Your Lover, where the album versions are much better. But some songs actually work better in their edited form, (Uptown is a lot more smoother and to the point then the dragged out album version, so is Alphabet Street but for some reason they always choose the album version for that song on Prince greatest hits collections) There are only a couple of filler tracks Pope and God, that later one is possibly his worst song.

    One thing you should realise is that Prince is a creepy man, especially back then, and a lot of songs are rather explicitly about sex. But you would know that instantly after looking at song titles like Head,Dirty Mind and I Love U In Me. If this is a bit much for you buy The Very Best Of Prince instead which is just the big hits, so it gives you less of an idea of what Prince is about.


    The Come Together cover isn't bad but it just lacks something. Not sure what but I find a lot of the 80s stuff just seems bare.

    That Hits and B-sides is probably the one I'll go for and too much is never enough. From what I saw of it (and this was the onlly one I liked the looked of) it seems worth it. Not so much creepy I don't think but more so sexually thoughtful.

    I hate edits 'cos usually they're not that needed. Only too often I've found a great compilation album and half the songs are edits, missing out the solos or the best lyrics. The Madonna album was by far the worst - who edits a song called Four Minutes that actually goes for that length, down to just over three?

    The only compilation albums I've found worth honestly getting are the Essential ones so if you have a band you're interested in go for those (though they're only for Sony and Legacy artists). They usually have 30-40 songs on them, maybe 50 if you get the 3.0 release and usually pretty cheap too. You can get unreleased songs, B-sides, live tracks and even remixes.
  10. Originally posted by drewhiggins:[..]

    The Come Together cover isn't bad but it just lacks something. Not sure what but I find a lot of the 80s stuff just seems bare.

    That Hits and B-sides is probably the one I'll go for and too much is never enough. From what I saw of it (and this was the onlly one I liked the looked of) it seems worth it. Not so much creepy I don't think but more so sexually thoughtful.

    I hate edits 'cos usually they're not that needed. Only too often I've found a great compilation album and half the songs are edits, missing out the solos or the best lyrics. The Madonna album was by far the worst - who edits a song called Four Minutes that actually goes for that length, down to just over three?

    The only compilation albums I've found worth honestly getting are the Essential ones so if you have a band you're interested in go for those (though they're only for Sony and Legacy artists). They usually have 30-40 songs on them, maybe 50 if you get the 3.0 release and usually pretty cheap too. You can get unreleased songs, B-sides, live tracks and even remixes.


    Yes, long best of/ greatest hits albums are great. The Platinum Collection by Bowie is better than Best Of Bowie or Changesbowie. The other Prince greatest hits collections, The Very Best Of Prince and Ultimate Prince are poorly selected and confusing.

    Edits are often in there because it won't fit otherwise.

    I've got a a Essential series compilation, (The Essential Clash). I have seen a Michael Jackson Essential compilation for $10 at JB, is it worth getting?


  11. You just know when someone who isn't a big fan has compiled one. Edits are alright if they're edited in such a way they actually work. Then again, you listen to how butchered Magnificent's edit (the UK one) is and it really makes you wonder who the hell comissioned it.

    If you want to get a compilation cheap - I wouldn't pay more than $15, King Of Pop is the way to go - skip Number Ones. You get several demo tracks, a good spread of tracks chosen by Australian fans and actually does a good job of covering every album as well as the songs most people would know, and most aren't edits either. If you like the 70s, 80s and group work then Essential is a great one.

    What's that Clash one like? I'm trying this year to get into loads of new (to me, at least) bands.
  12. Watched Rattle and Hum with a friend who was interested and had never seen it before. He thought it was wonderful, especially surprised and really fell right into the movie when he heard "Van Diemen's Land" and realized it was The Edge. He had no idea the man could sing. Also loved Larry's humor, which even got me a few times too.

    "Lawrence, if I had feet like yours, I wouldn't want them in the film!"
    "And if I had a head like YOURS I'd bleedin' BURY it!"

    Another quote I didnt catch the previous hundred times I'd seen the film:

    BB King: "I don't really know what to do there, I'm just sort of...[keeps playing]"
    Bono: "Just, just keep doing that! [Astounded laughing; says to the side] Was that a joke?"

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