Originally posted by drewhiggins:How long does it take in senior school to complete? I know we've year eight to twelve here and an option for a year thirteen if you want to do that if you've got nothing else to go for? I left year 13 six months early because I got a job offer that I got in 30 seconds (the quickest job application ever) and lasted 12 months. For computer helpdesk work. It was good, pity the place went under.
Ah yes I liked modern studies but not as much as ancient studies. What's information systems?
I just figured I hate studying so a job's probably the best way to go and to go with the pay and qualifications, it's also helped me to become a more social and outgoing person rather than not hardly communicating - I was a real loner in school and never really interacted. I had friends but very few. The rest were real hangers-on and you finally once school ends realise how very much so that is.
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About 11-18, but I'm actually quite young so I'm one of the youngest in my year. So I'll finish school at 17. Here, we call it 1st Year, 2nd Year... and so on. I'm 5th year, going into 6th year (which is the final year). 6th year (according the people who are in it now, and just left yesterday), is amazing. You get a common room which is when you have a free period, you get free periods, staff respect you more and you start earning more friends. You also get a 'muck-up day' one the day you are leaving school (which the 6th years had yesterday) where you get to do anything that day. There is bouncy castles, barbeques and all sorts! What is the highest year in school in Australia?
Yeah, there has been people in my year who have left half way through to get a job. If you are offered a good job, you should take it and just leave school. Because at least you are actually out there doing something with your life. It's a good option imo.
Modern Studies is great. One subject in school I properly succeed in.
Information Systems is a bit like Computing, except it's much more common sense. It also has things to do with businesses, multimedia, organisations, how to organise data & information etc. It's easier than Computing, but there is a 17 mark question in the exam about a thing called 'normalisation'. Which I know how to do, but it took me half the year to work out. I can get 15 marks maximum, but I always make a tiny mistake in each one which loses me a couple of marks. It's much more intersting than Computing too. That's maybe because I hate Computing school, but that was because of the programming and the teacher I had who couldn't teach and basically said I was going to fail. We'll see about that, because when she comes back from maternity leave next year, I will rub it in her face if I pass.
Well that's good if it's made you more social and outgoing. I love socialising, it's great. There is some idiots at school that you will despise, but they all leave school early. Most of them have left or the ones that have stayed have became nice.
Staying on at school has helped me gain more friends too. There was people I never spoke to until this year, so I've gained more friends, which is good. Staying on for 6th year will gain me even more friends as according to them this year - "everyone becomes friends".
Originally posted by drewhiggins:[..]
Oh right. We used to get the free periods...I remember year 12, I had so many I had much time off I hardly went to school. At this time I pretty much thought I'm not getting anywhere with it anyway and just started messing around and being bored and falling asleep and not bothering going when I had to. In the end I thought it was fucked, turn up for classes 20 minutes late and all that crap and the teachers teaching trivial crap nobody's ever going to use. Well, half wouldn't use it and the other half wouldn't use anything of use, so...yeah.
The highest year is year 12, though as I said (I think I did) you can do an optional year 13. That was my muck-up year all year around. Ah we had so much fun in school. Ended up using 600GB of the school's computer server (because we found out the password) for storing pictures, 20 000 MP3s and funny videos, until some idiot blabbed about it. Better in a job than being bored going nowhere anyway and being someone rather than someone who is no-one).
I didn't even go to my graduation or prom here because I didn't like the people so I went the next day and collected all my stuff seperately.
Originally posted by drewhiggins:[..]
Ah yeah, databases, data stores etc. I learnt a lot about that. Programming I ended up teaching the class about that and the teacher just sat back in shock that I knew more than he did. Lol. How would a teacher know you're gonna fail...they always use the defensive like ''you're gonna fail''. Motivation much.
What is normalisation? Is that the question what is normal?
Originally posted by drewhiggins:[..]
I laugh now because I realise how juvenile they really were. I did better (well, I think I did, others don't for some reason). Yeah it's funny how you get these tools by themselves and they suddenly turn really nice. Because their cocksucker cronies have left and they've got nobody left to pretend to be a big man with. Lol to them.
I didn't become friends with hardly anyone because they all turned nasty and showed their true colours. I have maybe 5-6 close friends, two from working and one from school (who despite all the crap he got and being accused of crap no person should have to go through - he had to leave to get away from being bashed and taunted, still is one of the greatest people I've ever met) and the rest moved interstate. I still keep in touch with them but not as much as I could. It's hard when you live like 500km from someone else...you can't really visit them as much as you can with someone down the road.
Originally posted by KieranU2:[..]
I'll maybe get 7 free periods next year out of 28.
Wow. That sounds bad.
HA, that sounds amazing! That would be so much fun. Apparently our school server is really shit and has a small capacity. A reliable Computing teacher told us that he had to start clearing stuff of the server because there wasn't much space left. Our school isn't really that good overall. A lot of crappy teachers too.
Yeah, it's got quite a lot of databases bits to it. Like, it mentions alot about keys (primary, foreign, atomic...). Data dictionaries, anomalies and all that too.
Wish you were my teacher then. She was absoultely useless at teaching Computing. I don't even know why she's teaching it. She's about 4 ft 2 as well, and really bossy. When she was 'teaching', she was just copying notes from a book and putting them on a slideshow for us to copy down. And we asked her a question, she would barely know the answer to it. Absoutely useless.
Normalisation is sorting data into forms. There is 4 forms - UNF (Un-organised form), 1NF (1st normal form - spliting it in to 2 entities of one being of the attributes which only appear once in a table, and the other being of multi-valued attributes), 2NF (2nd normal form - removing partial dependencies and splitting it into 3 entities), 3NF (3rd normal form - splitting it into 4 entities). It's actually quite hard to explain. But I'll send you a link of a past paper.
Question - http://www.sqa.org.uk/pastpapers/papers/papers/2010/H_Information-Systems_all_2010.pdf (go to Question 13)
Answer - http://www.sqa.org.uk/pastpapers/papers/instructions/2010/mi_H_Information-Systems_all_2010.pdf (Question 13 again)
Yeah, they are pretty juvenile. There is loads of them who were so unbelievably nasty back in 2nd year and now really friendly. And it's exactly how you said - they get influenced by their friends to act nasty to you.
I've had a couple of friends who have turned nasty before, but not a huge amount. It's mainly been girls.
Yeah, it's good if you keep in touch with them, because no matter how far away they are, you are still friends with them. And it's also interesting to hear how they are doing and what they are up to. But it is hard, because you can't exactly visit them on a regular basis.
Drew, only 1 post away from 10,000!
Originally posted by drewhiggins:[..]
Next year's gonna be a hard one but I reckon you'll do it.
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And when they found all these mp3s and videos and things on there, they threatened suspension. Me and a friend must have loaded up 1% of the world's entire music on there easy.
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My teachers used to do that, copy and show on the board. They should learn, after all what are we there for? Apart from the messing around, I'm, and I'm sure you as well, there to learn, not to have some angry little lady literally copying out of a book. That's ridiculous.
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Can't view those PDFs as I don't have PDF viewing on this computer but I know what you mean - I think. Like databases for various information. That was good, I always used to enjoy that but when it got over-complicated it was just stupid.
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Peer pressure is a real bitch. But karma's more so a bitch. Eventually they get their karma. I'd love to be visiting all my friends but you can't because of that reason. The girls are the worst, the guys you can tell them to fuck off and they don't bother you so much, but the girls, because they get so attached to you, they want to keep bothering you and all you want to say is fuck off. You say that then you get in shit.
Yeah I've had some scary ones but thankfully no more. They used to prank our phone (not scary but annoying) and eventually I saw them and told them to fuck off and grow the fuck off. Never got another one - maybe they grew up or realised they're wasting their fucking time and I don't care.
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One ahead. And you were here to see it. Five years.
Yeah, I hope I will do it.
Hah, really? My brother had admin rights back when he was at school. He also made half the website.
It's hard to learn when even they don't know what they are talking about. Copying out of a text book and putting it in a powerpoint is absoutely useless. There is no way you can learn that way.
Yeah, it looks very complicated when you first look at it, but you'll eventually get it. Weird to this, but it's actually quite fun to do.
Yeah, it is. Girls are the worst, definitely. I know a few of them that are complete bitches and we then don't like each other anymore. Thankfully not all girls are like that, because you do get some very friendly ones.
Very well done on the 10,000. I'm now away to post on that thread you just opened!
Originally posted by drewhiggins:[..]
You will!!!
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Yep. And it was funny at the time but it also taught me something important: never tell someone who's mum is involved in school administration.
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You can learn if it's up there and know certain things, but you don't really know how whatever it is you're learning about works.
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I'll have to take a look because I'd like to see it.
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You get some great people and you know you can trust them which is good - I know I did but half the people I met at school if I saw them in the street I wouldn't give them my time because they were arseholes, and arseholes don't deserve respect if they're going to be arseholes their entire life and expect people to like their arsehole-ish behavior. I can't roll with that.
Thanks for posting there too. I almost didn't come back after two posts because all I wanted was a show recording but got it and then I stayed because more people registered and instead of like 200 people and members, most of who didn't post, there's over 40 000!!!
Well, I must be off for early sleep - working tomorrow and interested to know what the project is. I've no idea but who knows, it might be interesting.
Originally posted by LikeASong:That's mostly everyone's story. All of us came in order to get a show or two in MP3, and later stayed forever.
I came in search of a new community (I'm user number 351) where no one felt superior to anyone. True story