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  1. The Grammy's is an industry award and not a peoples choice or a show of what album is 'artistically best' per a measureable means.

    The fact remains, Taylor Swift won album of the year because she sold a boat load of records and the PR staff at her label get her name in the press, on TV and on the radio.

    Kings of Leon beat U2 because of the same reasons. You can argue that KOL's album is better or worse than NLOTH but the fact remains, KOL's album came out in 2008 and they are STILL playing singles from that album on the radio and they are still in the charts. So sales-wise and exposure-wise, KOL beat U2 and that it why they won the Grammy.

    Same thing with Green Day beating U2. Singles are getting played. Album got better reviews...

    None of that means Green Day, Kings of Leon or Taylor Swift, for that mattter, are better artists / musicians. Just means this time, it was there year. This time their record labels pushed to get them the exposure and it paid off.
  2. What's so funny about those award shows and U2 fans is that if the band wins an award people use it as an argument how great the band /song /album is ("Hey the bomb won 150 Grammies, it's an amazing album"). If the award goes to another artist, the whole award thing is seen as just ridiculous anyway (" No Oscar nomination for Winter? The Oscars have been a joke for years. Even Eminem has one.").
  3. There's no such thing as a better or worse band. It is just that you like some better than others.
    And these kind of awards and stuff are in fact very silly. I mean, U2 has won a thousand Grammys, was inducted to Rock Hall Of Fame, and Rush has never won a Grammy nor been inducted. I mean, something is very clearly wrong. Same thing for the Scorpions, which are massively more influential than U2, and are yet to receive some of these silly awards.
  4. Originally posted by yeah:What's so funny about those award shows and U2 fans is that if the band wins an award people use it as an argument how great the band /song /album is ("Hey the bomb won 150 Grammies, it's an amazing album"). If the award goes to another artist, the whole award thing is seen as just ridiculous anyway (" No Oscar nomination for Winter? The Oscars have been a joke for years. Even Eminem has one.").


    I still didn't think Bomb was worth eight Grammys though. Maybe Zooropa was, but not that.

    And I know Winter is a great song so why should I care?


  5. I don't say you should. And I didn't mean to pick you out of the lot here or to attack anyone.

    Sometimes it's quite useful to change perspectives and to broaden the own horizon, though. Something that seems to be quite tough for many U2 fans. But then again we're fans of a band that has the most megalomanic and hypocritical singer in the biz - so it's understandable that we are, too.
  6. Originally posted by yeah: But then again we're fans of a band that has the most megalomanic and hypocritical singer in the biz - so it's understandable that we are, too.


    hahaha
  7. Every price is worth winning. But I think it wasnt U2's year. Of course die hard fans liked the album. But the album's success was sub par. Dont forget there are a lot of people that dont care about u2. And u2 did not succeed to reach the public with their singles.

    I dont care that they lost, will give them extra motivation to release a better album.


  8. Err, no that's just a naive, Kindegarten "everybody's a winner" mentality, get real.
    Some bands ARE objectively better than others, sure an individual's views might differ but there are a lot of other criteria to rank bands by.

    Originally posted by thechicken:
    Same thing for the Scorpions, which are massively more influential than U2, and are yet to receive some of these silly awards.


    How are the Scorpions more influential than U2? They were just like all the other 80s hard rock/metal bands.

    How many bands today have the Scorpions as influences?
    You can hear U2's influence on pretty much all the bands still relevant today ie. the Killers, Coldplay, Radiohead, Muse, Kings of Leon, Snow Patrol, Arcade Fire
  9. Originally posted by vanquish:[..]

    Err, no that's just a naive, Kindegarten "everybody's a winner" mentality, get real.
    Some bands ARE objectively better than others, sure an individual's views might differ but there are a lot of other criteria to rank bands by.

    [..]

    How are the Scorpions more influential than U2? They were just like all the other 80s hard rock/metal bands.

    How many bands today have the Scorpions as influences?
    You can hear U2's influence on pretty much all the bands still relevant today ie. the Killers, Coldplay, Radiohead, Muse, Kings of Leon, Snow Patrol, Arcade Fire



    I have no idea who the Scorpians are?
  10. Originally posted by drewhiggins:[..]

    I still didn't think Bomb was worth eight Grammys though. Maybe Zooropa was, but not that.

    And I know Winter is a great song so why should I care?



    We've seen this before on the Grammy's. An artist has an incredible album and get overlooked, BUT it seems the Grammy's try to "make-up" for it on a future album. Achtung Baby deserved those eight Grammy's that Bomb got.

    Bonnie Ratt and Santana were overlooked for YEARS and then one year BOOM -- they were winning everything.

  12. Originally posted by vanquish:[..]

    Err, no that's just a naive, Kindegarten "everybody's a winner" mentality, get real.
    Some bands ARE objectively better than others, sure an individual's views might differ but there are a lot of other criteria to rank bands by.

    [..]

    How are the Scorpions more influential than U2? They were just like all the other 80s hard rock/metal bands.

    How many bands today have the Scorpions as influences?
    You can hear U2's influence on pretty much all the bands still relevant today ie. the Killers, Coldplay, Radiohead, Muse, Kings of Leon, Snow Patrol, Arcade Fire



    Actually, they were THE 80s hard rock band. I mean, they shaped that style, and played it better than everyone else. The 80s wouldn't be the 80s without them.
    I don't mean to be rude, but it is hard to take your points seriously when you tell me that coldplay is a relevant band.
    What is an objective to say that X band is better than Y band?
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