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  1. this is the kind of stuff i like viewing but i can never seem to find it, definatly doesnt look like a plane did that
  2. It does look weird. But most conspiracy theories make some kind of sense. Someone look at Paul McCartneys is dead'. It is a bit creepy sometimes
  3. Originally posted by Yogi:[YouTube Video]

    Just watched this brilliant documentary named 'The War You Don't See' by John Pilger.

    It's a documentary so good and so shocking that I couldn't sleep last night after watching it.

    Documentary tells the story of USA slaughters all the way from dropping atomic bombs on Japan, war in Vietnam to war in Iraq and Afghanistan.

    The story is told by the people that used to work or work in U.S. or British government, UN and journalists and soldiers that withnesed bloodshed of the innocent Iraqi people.

    There are many data in the film that show why USA really is in Iraq, how Israelis stole land from Palestina over the years, how wars are becoming more and more brutal.

    In WWI only 10% of the killed people in war were civilians. In WWII 50%, in Iraq 90% of the killed people are CIVILIANS.

    There is even interview with UN weapons inspector in Iraq Scot Ritter who says that possible threat from Iraq was equal to 0 because all the weapons that Iraq had was destroyed by USA and Iraq itself in 90-ties.

    There is also reveal by former UN employee how US and British government with sancions on purpose killed half million of little children.

    Watch this film, you won't regret it.


    So in other words it just another "Everything is the fault of the U.S, and the free market" leftie propaganda film.
  4. Originally posted by Risto:Well the opponents arent helping. The wars became different as well. In the WWs you could hit the enemy in the heart and they would fall apart. Now you are fighting the 1000 headed monster.

    USA should mind their own business more often, but you cant pin everything on them.


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    This aint a USA-only thread. Lots of politics elsewhere in the world


    In WW2 we were fighting uniformed combatants, who at least pretended to care about the rules of war.
  5. I'd be willing to bet Obamacare will be dead by years end.
  6. You guys should just change the title of this topic to "All the world evils are the fault of America, and the free market", and get it over with.


  7. You just can't answer me like that because you didn't actually watch the film.
  8. I'm not saying that Saying here (translated): Tall trees catch lots of wind.


  9. I've lost faith in media long time ago. Don't believe what you hear, don't believe what you see Not saying that you are wrong, just that there is no way to find out what the truth is for the normal citizen.

    War is always ugly, for example there are strong rumours that the UCK killed people for their organs. Under the umbrella of the NATO.

    Not saying it is true, just saying that truth is the first thing down the drain when the bomb falls.


  10. But I did. Unlike you I like seeing diffrent viewpoints from my own.
  11. Originally posted by Risto:[..]

    I've lost faith in media long time ago. Don't believe what you hear, don't believe what you see

    War is always ugly, for example there are strong rumours that the UCK killed people for their organs. Under the umbrella of the NATO.

    Not saying it is true, just saying that truth is the first thing down the drain when the bomb falls.


    The first casualtie of war is truth.


  12. I didn't say that to you! But that is why you should see this film because it reveals how media is supporting propaganda of goverments and lying to people. There are journalists interviewed in film that admit they did support the war becuse they didn't do enough search and now they feel ashmed becuse of that.

    Here you won't see some obscure guys that talk nonsences that they don't understand. As I said, people in film are all people that worked for US or Britain governents or UN or soldiers that were fighting in Iraq.
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