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  1. Originally posted by Mr_Trek[..]

    That wasn't what you were saying in your post either. You were making it sound like it was all of the U.S.'s decision, and especially the military.

    Oh, and BTW, you should read my post again, I was saying it was Bush's decision to go to war, and it was.

    Obama and Bush the same? Really? Which countries did Obama invade again? Libya? No, wouldn't call it that.


    Guy promised to close Guantanamo. He didn't. And now Libya, Syria and Iran. And he won Nobel prize for peace. Gimme a break. He did for peace as much as Bush did, so there it is. I really liked Obama when he was elected but now I see that he doesn't want or just can't change anything.
  2. Oh, what did Obama do to Syria?

    Blame the US for everything.
  3. Originally posted by Mr_TrekOh, what did Obama do to Syria?

    Blame the US for everything.


    Nothing yet, but I guess that you read/watch news and there probably will be some kind of military action.
  4. Originally posted by Yogi[..]

    Nothing yet, but I guess that you read/watch news and there probably will be some kind of military action.


    Well, seeing the situation there, I'm starting to think there should be.

    Also, you should remember that France and the U.K. were the ones pushing for military action in Libya, not the U.S.
  5. Originally posted by Mr_Trek[..]

    Well, seeing the situation there, I'm starting to think there should be.

    Also, you should remember that France and the U.K. were the ones pushing for military action in Libya, not the U.S.


    Yeah, I'm aware of that. France has the most of Libyan blood on its hands, but U.S. also took part in bombings that killed tens of thousands of people. Not to mention countries, it's NATO's bloodshed...


    BTW there will be referendum about entering EU on weekend here in Croatia. Any advices? : ))
  6. Cooperate with The Hague on the matter of war criminals like Ante Govina. But you have

    I'm sure it's a great deal economically for your country, you'll probably get money from it, unlike the rich countries like mine that lose money by being a member.
  7. Originally posted by iTim:I don't want to takes sides with the US Military (I assume that's who we're talking about), but in a war situation, where life is unimaginably tough and you've seen comrades fall, you're bound to act a little inhuman towards the enemy when you finally come into contact with them. Of course, conventions, acts and ethics are all there for a reason but in a situation we can't even begin to imagine, all of those must be tested to some extent.

    I can sit here and say that urinating on the enemy is wrong but then again, I haven't been to war, fought in a tough environment against a seemingly elusive opponent and lost friends in battle. In the shoes of someone who has been there, I guess it all comes down to the mentality of the soldier. I'm sure they don't sign up to simply humiliate other humans.


    +1.
  8. Watching the extent to which the left plays the race card is sad.
  9. Originally posted by Mr_TrekCooperate with The Hague on the matter of war criminals like Ante Govina. But you have

    I'm sure it's a great deal economically for your country, you'll probably get money from it, unlike the rich countries like mine that lose money by being a member.


    I meant to ask how should I vote on referendum because I'm getting very skeptical about the whole situation in EU. And Croatia is still to weak economically ...

    Ante Gotovina is there for years already, and he in fact might be released. IMO; he didn't commit any crimes, he's just there because our first president Tuđman is dead and therefore cannot be judged.
  10. Originally posted by Yogi[..]

    I meant to ask how should I vote on referendum because I'm getting very skeptical about the whole situation in EU. And Croatia is still to weak economically ...

    Ante Gotovina is there for years already, and he in fact might be released. IMO; he didn't commit any crimes, he's just there because our first president Tuđman is dead and therefore cannot be judged.


    Well, when I looked Ante Gotovina up, it sure sounded like he's a war criminal. Like Ratko Mladić and Radovan Karadžić.

    That war was an ugly, ugly war.
  11. Originally posted by Yogi:[..]

    How was he right? US army went to Iran to search for weapons of mass destruction. There were no weapons of mass destruction. USA also claimed that Saddam was linked to Al'Qaeda. They were not. But anyway, 110.000 civilians are now dead. How the fuck was he right?




    The new president always learns things that the old president knew. Why do you think Obama made so many promises he didnt keep? Namely closing Gitmo in his first 100 days and pulling the troops out immediately. He didnt do either one cuz he learned some details he didnt know before.
  12. Originally posted by Guenther[..]

    The new president always learns things that the old president knew. Why do you think Obama made so many promises he didnt keep? Namely closing Gitmo in his first 100 days and pulling the troops out immediately. He didnt do either one cuz he learned some details he didnt know before.


    It's easy to say that you're going to do one thing (mainly to please the voters) but if something complicates that process once you're in office, it's going to be hard to deliver.
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