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  1. Originally posted by haytrain:Glenn....I am sooooo sorry. I was trying to quote your post and say 'no need to apologize,' and I accidentally edited yours (as a crewmember). Ugh...I'm so sorry. You had great comments. So sorry. I should lose my crewmember status.


    Noooo, all my work !

    Haha just kidding, don't mention it, i believe "X" is a good summary

    I'll try to retype it later on


  2. PM sent.
  4. Originally posted by PEDRO67:[..]

    America must have a lot of dumb people then as the Libertarians have only ever had one electoral vote (Roger MacBride).

    It was in 1972. He was a former Republican


    There have been presidents who were defacto Libertarian though. Washington, Jefferson, and Coolidge come to mind.
  5. Originally posted by BelgianBono:Maybe i'm disrupting you with my first post in this forum,
    maybe you don't give a damn about what i wanted to let you know.
    In both cases i apologize.


    Anyway, here i go :
    Belgium has recently broken the European 'record' for most days to form a government.
    It has been 213 days since the elections and we're still without a government.
    Last record was Holland in 1977 with 208 days, the world record is for Iraq (248) days and i bet we'll even 'break' that one too...

    That are just some figures of course. Fact is that i live in a very small country, where Flemings (Dutch speaking) and Walloons (French speaking) can't agree on ridiculous things, politicians slowly lead their county into a downward spiral and more and more people would like to split up the country (the party that won the elections, N-VA, is favor of an independent Flanders).

    Imo, this situation, which has actually begun years ago, is ridiculous and embarassing.

    Because it seems like many other countries are worried about the situation here, i was wondering if that's true : is this in the media where you live and if so, what do they actually say and/or what do you think about it (compared to your own situation) ?
    Because i heard some countries already reported we were preparing for a civil war, but that is still exagerated.




    Tbh, I dont see how / why Belgium should continue to exist in this form. Just draw a border, split governments and go. Or maybe make 2 states in Belgium. Anyway, no sense in continueing talking when everybody is tired of the other side.
  6. Originally posted by Risto:[..]


    Tbh, I dont see how / why Belgium should continue to exist in this form. Just draw a border, split governments and go. Or maybe make 2 states in Belgium. Anyway, no sense in continueing talking when everybody is tired of the other side.



    You're absolutely right, but it's not as simple as it looks.
    I've explained it in my previous comment, but Jeremy got rid of it
    (Just kidding Jeremy I totally forgive you, but you'll be hearing this for ages )
  7. Second attempt
    Maybe i'll better do it in pieces this time, I don't know...

    Originally posted by LikeASong:Yes I'm aware of the Belguim situation and I have to admit: it's embarrasing. They should have set up new elections when negotiations started to go downlhill and no agreement was on sight... It would have been better. Because there's no way out, Flemings' and Walloons' leaders are too hot-headed to agree on anything, much less on a government agreement. No way...


    Welcome to the politics discussion, Glenn


    Thanks for welcoming me here Some interesting thoughts here really.

    Your idea has been circulating around here a couple of times.
    But the truth is, people are really sick of the elections (we have to vote for different area's/parliaments/senates...) and actually the last elections weren't legal if you read our laws... But everything's possible here of course.

    The actual problem with the elections is that everytime there's a new huge winner, evocing a landslide... (then the socialists, then the Christian-Democrats, now the "New Flemish Alliance" (i'll probably don't have to tell you what they want ) )

    So we Belgians don't really seem to hold on to our own idea's, what we believe in
    We just vote for who's popular at the moment (eg, the New Flemish Alliance simply won because Bart De Wever became very poplar by playing a quiz for a couple of days... No kidding)

    This means that after every election, the new winner wants to go with his idea's. And mostly ONLY those idea's.
    But of course, they just came out of the underdog-position, spitting on every proposal from the previous winner, so the 'losers' (we're with about 7 big political families) want revenge and block everything.

    Childish, I know.
  8. Originally posted by Yogi:[..]

    Jes, few days ago I was listening to radio news and heard about that infamous record breaking, that situation is complicated, but nobody was mentioning civil war and things like that.

    Bad things are happening in Hungary too, conservative government there wants to take control over media, like in totalitarist systems.


    Oh ok, I was just wondering because some friends of mine recently went to England and people asked them "Where are you from ?". So they said "Belgium". And those English really became worried "Wow, are you ok ? With this civil war ahead of you". My friends we're amazed some people/countries think about us this way...

    Control over the media ? Hmm smells like Berlucsoniism...
    (How the hell does that guy survive ?)
  9. Originally posted by yuri31:I guess Belgium should seek the way Czechoslovakia split up. It was completely peaceful and looking back at it now, it was good for both Slovakia and the Czech Republic. Has to be said that the decision to split the country was mainly the politicians' will, though (there was not even a referendum held).


    That's the dream of some amongst us, to do it like Czechoslovakia.
    BUT unfortunately, it's not that simple.

    If would be if we were just 2 different pieces, but we've this annoying thing called Brussels (capital + area around it). This is actually located in Flanders, but there are more French speaking people than Dutch and has always been a mixed zone for more than a million people. We have no idea what to do with it, cause of course both sides want it because of all the big international institutions located there ("Capital of Europe").

    Last idea that's circulating now as the best solution (:X ), is to create 3 new countries : Flanders, Walloon and Brussels. Our King Albert II would still be King of all three of them .

    Btw, we also have a German region, but nobody seems to talk about that...




    Ok last thing I remember I said were my apologies for my long posts...
    I'm afraid they even got longer
    Frustration of living in monkey-land me thinks.

  10. WTF!!!! That seems completely unlogical


    By the way, no need to apologize at all for the length, this is a topic designed for long posts
  11. Idea makes some sense to me, dont know how Belgians think about the monarchy though.Another option might be placing Brussels directly under the EU flag?
  12. I guess there are thousands of people in that city who doens't feel "Europeans" but "Belgians", putting them under a continent flag instead of a country one would be a little harsh. But yes, something has to be done, Belgium is a really important country and it can't be like this for much more time...
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