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  1. Originally posted by wtshnnfb01:Nancy Pelosi has come out as saying she want people to make more money so they van be taxed more. That just about sums up everything wrong with modern libralism.

    What's "completely wrong" with that? Your schools and roads are built with that money.
  2. Thank you for proving my point.

  3. Ummm...yeah. What?

    It would be fair if people with more money would pay higher taxes but that isn't the case in the West. Countries with the biggest tax rates are those with the best living standards in the world. Scandinavian countries.

  4. Sorry, which point?

    All I can honestly think of "your point" is that you think each one should build his/her own houses and roads or what?


    Ok, let's put it under a spot you'll surely understand:
    Originally posted by LikeASongWhat's completely wrong with that? Your schools and roads are built army is sustained with that money.

  5. Left, right, liberals, conservatives...from what I see none of them are right, none of them do the right thing, specially in the US, but also in other parts of the world. I'm starting to lose hope in all political systems.
  6. Originally posted by Yogi:[..]

    Ummm...yeah. What?

    It would be fair if people with more money would pay higher taxes but that isn't the case in the West. Countries with the biggest tax rates are those with the best living standards in the world. Scandinavian countries.

    For me its not fair. Its just handy because rich people wont miss it. However that has nothing to do with fair.

    And in contrary to what you say, maybe for the exception of the USA, but in the west rich people not only pay more absolutely (in euro's/etc) but also relatively (in percentage).

    I don't really see whats wrong with that, actually I would prefer a flat rate (in percent). With a certain bottom level. Because that would be fair. And make stuff lots easier. Unfortunately that makes me about the only Dutchman with this plan. We are pretty communist here.
  7. So, it looks like Sarkozy will lose elections in France...
  8. Yep, people shoulnd't make more money so that they can buy a new car, or more christmas presents for the kids, but so you can tax them, and spend it all on dumb pet projects.
  9. Originally posted by wtshnnfb01:Yep, people shoulnd't make more money so that they can buy a new car, or more christmas presents for the kids, but so you can tax them, and spend it all on dumb pet projects.

    Or maybe to pay off on some of your country's astronomical debt, or perhaps to stimulate the economy, create more jobs, maybe help some of those living in very serious poverty...
  10. Originally posted by Mr_Trek:[..]

    Or maybe to pay off on some of your country's astronomical debt, or perhaps to stimulate the economy, create more jobs, maybe help some of those living in very serious poverty...

    Don't waste your time, he doesn't even understand the concept of taxing.

  11. That would be nothing. I sometimes think you fail to understand the value of things like freedom and democracy.
  12. Originally posted by Mr_Trek:[..]

    Or maybe to pay off on some of your country's astronomical debt, or perhaps to stimulate the economy, create more jobs, maybe help some of those living in very serious poverty...

    Cutting spending will do more for the debt than increasing taxes. The gov cant create jobs. Only a favorable business environment. And the social safety net has been ruined by the lazy.
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