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  1. Originally posted by Buttons:Does not one hold the bible up in court?
    So if he does so in court and is convicted to death
    the bible says wages sin pays is death, so the person
    is free'd by death, instead of being judged and punnished properly.
    If the 11 year old girl was mine, sure I would think death out of anger
    but not if it releases them from real punnishment,even sick people take death for the easy way out, worse when the bible in court says,your aquitted from sin when you die before everything.


    Seeing as I'm agnostic, that arguement don't work for me, and if there is a god, I cant help but feel he didn't let Jeffrey Dahmer in heaven.
  2. Originally posted by Buttons:No your alright Mac
    At the end of the day,a person should get punnishment for their wrong choices however how a large punnishment but not death,but also forgiveness if the person has any heart in them.
    We certainly dont know what or who pushes one to do such things,which is sometimes the case.
    Not saying its an excuse to do wrong,but an excuse for forgiveness through punishment.


    Forgiveness is for idiots.
  3. Originally posted by Risto:[..]


    Its a great day isn't it Congrats to you too Aaron, we don't agree on many things but I think you are a cool guy


    I consider you allright as well, even if we don't agree on much.
  4. Originally posted by Guenther:[..]


    What about the people who risk their lives guarding them in prison? My dad worked at a prison and watched 4 friends die because imprisonment is not enough. I have been to 2 funerals because imprisonment is not enough. You're saying that when someone is murdered, the murderer is scarred for life? Are you sure the murderer even cares? If they cared, many would not have committed the murder in the first place.....


    I'd like to thank your father to his service. I'm hoping to become a police officer myself, but I have friends who hope to become corrections officers so I am rather familiar with the dangers they face.
  5. Originally posted by Yogi:[..]


    The only decent candidate.

    [..]


    Since you don't have a job you're also burden to the taxpayers, but nobody will try to kill you because of that. Killing someone as a punishment is just barbaric. Communists used to do it a lot, you know.


    What you fail to grasp is the effort I am putting into bettering myself.
  6. I've never met an Iranian. Shame really. I know there is some down by Detroit, but anyone who lives in Michigan knows that Detroit is a city one should avoid unless you really have to go there.

    Course the small towns are what make this state great imo.

  7. You're probably not the only unemployed person who does. Social security is a good thing.

  8. But a commonly misued thing.
  10. Large numbers of people get it who dont need it.

    To be fair I technically dont get it. I live with my grandmother who gets it, but I think most will agree she earned it.
  11. Originally posted by wtshnnfb01:Large numbers of people get it who dont need it.

    To be fair I technically dont get it. I live with my grandmother who gets it, but I think most will agree she earned it.

    Shut up you commie bastard.
  12. Originally posted by wtshnnfb01:I've never met an Iranian. Shame really. I know there is some down by Detroit, but anyone who lives in Michigan knows that Detroit is a city one should avoid unless you really have to go there.

    Course the small towns are what make this state great imo.

    Most Iranians in the US are in California, specially Los Angels and San Francisco. I've got an uncle there, works in silicon valley if you ever wish to visit
    Thanks Chris and Olof! Have to consider Netherlands too I guess

    On the death penalty, I'm not a fan.

    Religion-wise, the Quran says:
    "...If anyone kills a person - unless it be for murder or for spreading mischief in the land - it would be as if he killed all people. And if anyone saves a life, it would be as if he saved the life of all people"

    In the following verses it is said that the family of a murder victim have the right to request the death penalty for the murderer (this is one short verse). The next few verses tho try to convince the family of the victim to forgive the murderer and not request the death penalty (if they forgive him, they are saving a life, which as said before, is like saving the life of all people).

    All this said, I still don't like it even if the family decide to do it.
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