1. Thats nice. Most of the poor in American have multiple t.v.s cell phones, and internet. They can spare 10 bucks, for something necessary.
  2. And what about those who were born when birth certificates weren't standard procedure? I think you must have one to get an ID, am I right? At least I don't think it would be that easy to fix one. Probably especially if you're old, like these people would be, and don't know how to use a computer.
  3. My grandmother is going on 74. She has never had problems getting I.D.

    Liberal logic 101. making someone buy health insurance as a condition of being alive=good.

    Making someone get an I.D. to prove they are who they say they are before executing one of there most important rights (and that they need it for a number of other things anyway)=bad.
  4. Does a homeless person have the right to vote? Who perhaps has to beg people for money to get a meal? I think someone like that could like ten bucks.
  5. ID is required in Holland as well. Expired ones (up to 10? years old) count as well.
  6. Price of an ID is 40 euros here, passport is 48. So in that perspective, it is not that bad.
  7. Originally posted by Mr_Trek:Does a homeless person have the right to vote? Who perhaps has to beg people for money to get a meal? I think someone like that could like ten bucks.

    Your grasping at straws now. A small % of the population that does not vote anyway.
  8. I'd imagine more of them do than the number
    of cases of voter fraud the laws are going to stop.


  9. Yeah, the laws are not for the sake of democracy.


  10. For real? A passport over here costs £72.50.

  11. A video of a guy most people don't know, and don't care about making a dubious statement.

    How about I post the video of Bill Maher saying white people should vote for Obama, because the black people know who they are and where they live?

  12. You know there are all sorts of programs for the homeless here, right? I had a buddy, who was homeless, and he never once went hungry.