1. Well the difference is only the terminology.

    There is no much sense in discussing this further, we both know that


  2. Europe won't really care, we'll just make sure not to travel to USA because if we do and if we break a leg on your streets, we'll be paying for it for next few years.

    BTW military stood on the side of the protesters in Egypt. And of course, Israel is shitting it's pants because of it.
  3. Why?

    Most insurances here cover for injuries in foreign countries In most cases the only sucker is that you have to pay it yourself first, then declare the costs by your insurance company
  4. Originally posted by Yogi:[..]

    Europe won't really care, we'll just make sure not to travel to USA because if we do and if we break a leg on your streets, we'll be paying for it for next few years.

    BTW military stood on the side of the protesters in Egypt. And of course, Israel is shitting it's pants because of it.



    Israel and I believe the West as well are shitting their pants because even though the dictators in Arab countries did not care much about things like human rights, they managed to keep fundamentalists aside.
  5. Originally posted by yuri31:[..]

    Israel and I believe the West as well are shitting their pants because even though the dictators in Arab countries did not care much about things like human rights, they managed to keep fundamentalists aside.


    My enemies enemy.
  6. Personally I dont see why any of you care about American domestic issues.
  7. We dont You bring them up, only then we feel the need to comment

    Same as our business here in Holland doesnt bother you at all
  8. Originally posted by Risto:We dont You bring them up, only then we feel the need to comment

    Same as our business here in Holland doesnt bother you at all


    I dont know, and as long as your government isint lining up there oposition in the street, and slaughtering them, I really dont care.
  9. Only thing in Dutch politics is countless cutbacks. And of course loaning money we dont have to other Euro countries. The remaining millions we send to the bottomless JSF pit.

    That one is getting delayed, delayed and delayed. While the prices go up, up and up. I really should learn that trick, delivering nothing, raising the prices. Might come handy in the future. We really should've bought the Saab, the Eurofighter or invest in cheaper Russian technology

    And of course the oposition is opposed to everything the government does, its like a soap. Unfortunately a soap that will never have its series finale
  10. Originally posted by Risto:Only thing in Dutch politics is countless cutbacks. And of course loaning money we dont have to other Euro countries. The remaining millions we send to the bottomless JSF pit.

    That one is getting delayed, delayed and delayed. While the prices go up, up and up. I really should learn that trick, delivering nothing, raising the prices. Might come handy in the future. We really should've bought the Saab, the Eurofighter or invest in cheaper Russian technology

    And of course the oposition is opposed to everything the government does, its like a soap. Unfortunately a soap that will never have its series finale


    JSF is a lost cause. Should have just replaced the old F-16s with the new Block 60 version.
  11. Yeah, no sense having top of the notch stuff anyway for a country like Holland. In the unimaginable chance war breaks out in West-Europe we dont have a chance anyway.

    And it doesnt really matter if you attack men with beards far from home using the JSF or a crappy F16s.
  12. If your country ever did have to go to war, you'ed probally have America backing you.

    Also, didn't one of your countrys F-16s bag a Mig well patroling the no fly zone in the Balkans back in the 90s?