1. At that one rally, I can think of at least three crimes carried out by union thugs.

  2. But as I reasoned that is not an argument against unions. In fact, an union prevents the crimes shown in the video I didn't watch, because it protects workers against Chinese working conditions.
  3. Originally posted by fabian:[..]

    But as I reasoned that is not an argument against unions. In fact, an union prevents the crimes shown in the video I didn't watch, because it protects workers against Chinese working conditions.

    That makes no sense. So somehow, by preventing Third-world working conditions (which they don'), they prevent their members from commiting crimes, which evidently they still do, since we have it on tape?

    I'm not a genius by any means, but that arguement makes no sense.

  4. You've just shown that once again.

    I noticed that the President of the World Bank Jim Wolfhenson came out on Sept 12 or maybe Sept 13 and said you know the roots of this problem are in abject poverty, fanatics live off (this) - their fuel, fuel for their fanaticism is the abject poverty that they live in, so I put a challenge to us that perhaps the only way to really win this war, really win it, is to try and take away that poverty, that's my prayer.

    Third world working conditions drive people right into crime. Have some scientific proof, those videos will be boring over time.
  5. And while you were bashing the working class, I used my time and looked for some statistics...

    If union membership is required for a job, why is the trade union density (= union members / workers) not higher than twelve per cent in the United States?
  6. Originally posted by fabian:[..]

    You've just shown that once again.

    I noticed that the President of the World Bank Jim Wolfhenson came out on Sept 12 or maybe Sept 13 and said you know the roots of this problem are in abject poverty, fanatics live off (this) - their fuel, fuel for their fanaticism is the abject poverty that they live in, so I put a challenge to us that perhaps the only way to really win this war, really win it, is to try and take away that poverty, that's my prayer.

    Third world working conditions drive people right into crime. Have some scientific proof, those videos will be boring over time.

    Because working conditions in Indiana and North Carolina are definantly third-world.

    It never fails. When a lib cant think of anything else they will resort to insulting their foes intelect. I have the clarity to admit I'm not a genius. That does not mean I'm dumb. On the contrary, I'm widely regarded as being quite bright by those who actually know me.

  7. Lets review for a minute. I never said, membership is required for all jobs. For certain professions in some areas though it is almost impossible to get the job without joining a union.

    Given that I'm a member of the working class, I find it hilarious you accuse me of bashing it. This is really quite simple. I work to get paid. Not the other way around.
  8. Originally posted by wtshnnfb01:[..]

    Because working conditions in Indiana and North Carolina are definantly third-world.

    It never fails. When a lib cant think of anything else they will resort to insulting their foes intelect. I have the clarity to admit I'm not a genius. That does not mean I'm dumb. On the contrary, I'm widely regarded as being quite bright by those who actually know me.

    Let's review for a minute. I never said working conditions in Indiana and North Carolina are third world like. All I said was that bad conditions drive people into crime.

    It was American sociologist Robert Merton who said that people who cannot reach their life goals the legal way will eventually do it the illegal way.

    If you had a quick look at the pdf I presented you, you would have found a graph showing a correlation between low incomes and homicides. As far as I know unions make incomes higher. See where I am going?
  9. Originally posted by wtshnnfb01:Lets review for a minute. I never said, membership is required for all jobs. For certain professions in some areas though it is almost impossible to get the job without joining a union.

    You did say it more or less. Actually, you just did.

    Given that I'm a member of the working class, I find it hilarious you accuse me of bashing it. This is really quite simple. I work to get paid. Not the other way around.

    In my mind the woking class consists of working people.